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Small Engine, Nice View Of London. Motiv?  
User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

Are such shots accepted in the DB (click for the larger version)?



Thanks,

Tony


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User currently offlineBoeingfreak From Germany, joined May 2005, 398 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3532 times:

Hi,
yes shots like your's are allowed at airliners.net but yours isn't showing enough of the aircraft (will result in a motiv rejection). The engine also looks soft and the houses a bit blurry. Next time try to include the wing (or parts of the wing), if there's not enough aircraft visible in the picture it will be a no-go for airliners.net

Florian


User currently offlineIlikeflight From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 366 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

Quoting Boeingfreak (Reply 1):
yes shots like your's are allowed at airliners.net but yours isn't showing enough of the aircraft (will result in a motiv rejection). The engine also looks soft and the houses a bit blurry. Next time try to include the wing (or parts of the wing), if there's not enough aircraft visible in the picture it will be a no-go for airliners.net

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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3461 times:

Hey,

Quoting Boeingfreak (Reply 1):
The engine also looks soft

This is my main worry about this shot.

Quoting Boeingfreak (Reply 1):
and the houses a bit blurry.

As we discussed in the other thread, getting super sharp pictures through a window is hard, due to all the glass you have to shoot through.

Quoting Boeingfreak (Reply 1):
Next time try to include the wing (or parts of the wing),

Yeah, I know. I have many over-the-wing shots in the DB. I was (a) trying to do something different and (b) I didn't have much of a choice in this case, as I was seating in the middle row, just held my camera against the window, and shot blind. I was not very hopeful, under the circumstances. But, when I saw this one, I thought that it might have a chance. In fact, I have seen a couple of shots in the DB that basically include a small part of the engine, similar to mine, and concentrate on what's behind it.

Quoting Boeingfreak (Reply 1):
if there's not enough aircraft visible in the picture it will be a no-go for airliners.net

I wouldn't say that this one has much of an aircraft in the picture; it instead focuses in the background.


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And it still works, in my opinion.

Quoting Psych (Reply 2):

Also - in your other thread with the London shot - I would agree that the sharpening is not right on that one (also ultimately, it is an aerial view of London, not a plane photo, as there is not enough engine in shot). This can be very tricky through aircraft windows. When I last flew it struck me that it was in fact not possible to get the ground in sharp focus at all - clearly due to something about the properties of the windows. So this may not be an editing issue.

Yeah, exactly. I had to heavily sharpen to get it as is in the first place. Seriously, what equipment should I have to use to make such shots to work? Splash on >$1,000 a f/1.4 L lens to maximize sharpness and minimize motion blur? Would it be worth it? Absolutely NOT.

Regards,

Tony



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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 3328 times:

It seems as if the screeners are finding new and innovative ways to reject my photos! It was rejected for soft and (wait for it!) level!!! And no motiv!!!



There's not horizon, so how am I supposed to level this??? Do I have to make sure the engine is level???

Tony



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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1667 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 3313 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

Quoting SNATH (Reply 4):
It seems as if the screeners are finding new and innovative ways to reject my photos! It was rejected for soft and (wait for it!) level!!! And no motiv!!!

We'll start with soft.....it is. Probably understandable with shooting at an angle through all that glass but soft, nonetheless.

Level is far more contentious and what I do when screening is to go for an at a glance look, the instant feeling. If it feels right I don't always check, if I do because that at a glance feel suggests that it is wrong, it usually is. I am afraid that my at a glance feel of yours is that it needs CW, and a quite a bit of it.

And before you ask, I did not reject it. It is a pity as I do not think the softness is correctable.

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 hours ago) and read 3295 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 4):
There's not horizon, so how am I supposed to level this??? Do I have to make sure the engine is level???

Come on Tony, common sense would tell you that the tall buildings should still be level....which they aren't.

Quoting SNATH (Reply 4):
It seems as if the screeners are finding new and innovative ways to reject my photos!

Yes, they have nothing better to do...... I wouldn't say rejecting a photo with an obvious defect is "new and innovative".


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3215 times:

Mick,

First, I'd like to say that you're the first screener to ever give me constructive feedback on my many rejections on this forum. So, thank you. I appreciate your feedback.

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 5):
Probably understandable with shooting at an angle through all that glass but soft, nonetheless.

The picture overall, or just the engine? As you said, it's very hard to get any decent detail on the ground through all the layers of horrible glass that they plane windows have.

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 5):
I am afraid that my at a glance feel of yours is that it needs CW, and a quite a bit of it.



Quoting JeffM (Reply 6):
Come on Tony, common sense would tell you that the tall buildings should still be level....which they aren't.

I'm in "virgin" territory here, as I've levelled all my shots according to the horizon so far. But, yes, I see what you're getting at. I'll play around with it.

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 5):
And before you ask, I did not reject it.

I was actually not going to ask.

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 5):
It is a pity as I do not think the softness is correctable.

I'll have another shot at editing it, when I have a few minutes to spare. I'll post it here for comments...

Quoting JeffM (Reply 6):
Yes, they have nothing better to do...... I wouldn't say rejecting a photo with an obvious defect is "new and innovative".

Come on, you can take a joke, can't you?

Tony



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