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User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

I took the photos below about 1 year ago and I just love them because of the unique (and rare!) combination of dark storm clouds, golden evening lighting, and fall colours on the trees. At the time I tried 2-3 separate times to upload without success, so I decided to leaved them for the old personal collection. The reason for rejection was always because of bad colours. There was also some debate about the fluorescent strips around the winglet and underneath the door, but that was put to rest because this phenomenon is common with Air Canada's scheme under certain lighting conditions.

Well it's fall again and with the trees changing colours I remembered these images so I've decided to have another go. Would anyone be so kind as to offer some suggestions as to how to properly correct the colours/white balance of these images? Feel free to post examples that you've edited. Also, let me know which of the two you prefer for an upload (at the time I worked on the frontal shot).

All suggestions/opinions are welcomed, especially those of the screeners. Thanks in advance for any help!

Big version: Width: 800 Height: 533 File size: 67kb

Big version: Width: 800 Height: 533 File size: 66kb


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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2844 times:
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AC888YOW,

I remember that picture quite well and found it sad that you gave up on it as I believe it's quite an exceptional one.
It's pretty difficult though to have a go at them from those small 'previews' you linked to the thread. I'd be more than happy to give you a hand if you'd send me the original file.
I'll send you my e-mail address via PM.

Cheers,

Thierry



"Go ahead...make my day"
User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4007 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2836 times:

I prefer the second picture because I think the sunlit sign in the first one is distracting.

I'm not good at colour issues myself, but the 'neutral grey' principle discussed recently suggests something like this:
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It looks very differently, but it does look good to me.

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineSluger020889 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 456 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2828 times:

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 2):
I'm not good at colour issues myself, but the 'neutral grey' principle discussed recently suggests something like this:

I think you found a bad grey there, that looks way to cool IMO.

Joey



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User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2821 times:

Thanks to everyone so far.

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 1):
I'd be more than happy to give you a hand if you'd send me the original file.
I'll send you my e-mail address via PM.

Stand by. I will send you the image shortly. Thanks for the offer.

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 2):
It looks very differently, but it does look good to me.

As mentioned that one looks too cool, but I think that's on the right track. Where was this neutral grey principle discussed?


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4007 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2802 times:

Quoting AC888YOW (Reply 4):
As mentioned that one looks too cool, but I think that's on the right track. Where was this neutral grey principle discussed?

Another Colour Rejection.. (by KLM772ER Aug 27 2007 in Aviation Photography)

In the Photoshop Levels window, there's a Set Grey Point option and all I did was pointing it at the tarmac. In the thread, one of the screeners - Mick - suggests that asphalt should be a colourless gray, although he doesn't seem to use this Set Grey Point tool himself.

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineSluger020889 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 456 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 5):
In the thread, one of the screeners - Mick - suggests that asphalt should be a colourless gray, although he doesn't seem to use this Set Grey Point tool himself.

I use this method almost all the time when it comes to color. My first source of neutral gray is something on the aircraft, either a leading edge flap, a main landing gear door, or the underside of a wing. If I can't find it there I normally move to something in the background or some form on concrete.

Joey



I would love to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong!
User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

Thanks to everyone for their help. Between the information posted here and help I've received via email I think I'm well on my way. With any luck that picture will make it up one of these days.

User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

Just a little update ...

This is the first and last time you'll ever see me plug my own photo, but I felt it relevant considering this thread so here goes.


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Photo © Peter Tsagaris - CYOW Airport Watch



You'll notice that I finally managed to edit a version of this shot that the screeners approved of (it only took a year!). I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank everyone who helped me with tips, pointers, lessons, advice, and even edits of their own (you know who you are).

Best,

- Peter -


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

Quoting AC888YOW (Reply 8):
This is the first and last time you'll ever see me plug my own photo

Nothing wrong with that Peter  Wink Just keep them coming!

Well done on that shot, really nice!
Florian



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2081 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
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Quoting AC888YOW (Reply 8):
You'll notice that I finally managed to edit a version of this shot that the screeners approved of (it only took a year!).

Well done Peter! Glad to see it made it in!  thumbsup 

Cheers,

Thierry



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2618 times:

Congrats on making the shot onto the DB! I love that beautiful light!


Scotty doesn't know...
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9668 posts, RR: 68
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2615 times:
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Peter - hopefully you read the note I passed along...

User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Royal,

I totally missed your comment the first time so I just went back and read it. It's been a long time since I brushed up on these criteria so thanks for the reminder. Thanks also for handling it the way you did.


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