BuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2777 posts, RR: 3 Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 8495 times:
Quote: Canon announced the development of two all-new telephoto lenses for use with its EOS SLR cameras: the EF200mm f/2L IS USM*/** and the EF800mm f/5.6L IS USM*/**. The Company will exhibit prototypes of the new lenses at PhotoPlus Expo (booth #318), taking place at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in New York City, October 18 to 20.
The new Canon EF200mm f/2L IS USM and EF800mm f/5.6L IS USM, both of which are L (luxury)-series lenses incorporating a high-performance Image Stabilizer, feature optical systems utilizing special optical materials such as fluorite to correct chromatic aberrations, making possible high-resolution, high-contrast shooting performance.
Quote: The Canon EF200mm f/2L IS USM, targeting users who seek a brighter lens for portraiture and indoor sports photography, realizes a large aperture of f/2. The EF800mm f/5.6L IS USM, expected to deliver telephoto performance surpassing the current top-of-the-line EF600mm f/4L IS USM super telephoto lens, is being developed in response to requests from users working in the fields of sports and news photography who are looking for a high-performance lens that offers a longer focal length.
Strange though that they discontinued the 200m/f1.8 only to then come with a 200mm/f2. The old one may not have has IS, but still...
Aero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3070 posts, RR: 23 Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8419 times:
Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Thread starter): Strange though that they discontinued the 200m/f1.8 only to then come with a 200mm/f2. The old one may not have has IS, but still...
Hey - 1/3 of a stop to add IS elements. Is that bad or what? f/1.8 with IS would be much more difficult to manufacture.
And of course, Canon made those lenses 'cause Nikon makes 200mm f/2 and 800mm f/5.6 and Canon did not - before.
Quoting JakTrax (Reply 3): You'd need some sort of Antonov to cart that 800mm thing around with you........
It's the same size as the 600mm f/4 IS so I guess it'll be similarly weighed. It means you only need Suresh.
Ilikeflight From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 366 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8347 times:
with an 800 and a 2x you'd be able to read the screens in the cockpit
Dvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1719 posts, RR: 12 Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8343 times:
Ultra-long lenses have their drawbacks, as anyone who owns them knows. Atmospheric effects start taking their toll the farther away from a subject you are, and your handling of the lens itself becomes critical. Buying an 800mm monster is no guarantee of getting a sharp image if you're still fairly far away...
As far as the discontinuation of the 200mm f/1.8, it's possible that the old lens design had now-banned materials used in its construction (See Europe's new regulations against certain substances) and the 200mm f/2 has a new optical design that doesn't need these elements.
INNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 62 Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8316 times:
Quoting Dvincent (Reply 10): As far as the discontinuation of the 200mm f/1.8, it's possible that the old lens design had now-banned materials used in its construction
Nope Dan, the 200 1.8L was discontinued simply because it did not sell enough to justify further production. This was 5 or 6 years ago already I believe. They claim that the main problem was that simply the market was not as big, and now with the DSLR's selling better than ever before I'm sure they'll sell very well.
Dvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1719 posts, RR: 12 Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8294 times:
Quoting INNflight (Reply 11):
Nope Dan, the 200 1.8L was discontinued simply because it did not sell enough to justify further production. This was 5 or 6 years ago already I believe. They claim that the main problem was that simply the market was not as big, and now with the DSLR's selling better than ever before I'm sure they'll sell very well.
I was just speculating, as this was the fate of some old lenses (hence the it's possible).
Aero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3070 posts, RR: 23 Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 8214 times:
Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 8): Well then why doesn't Canon make the 18-200 IS? It would be guaranteed massive seller! And then I can at least get rid of my Sigma...
They for sure have some prototypes... we'll see when they'll be announced.
200-400 f/4L IS is something I'd like, whatever it'd cost.
AKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2534 posts, RR: 50 Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8041 times:
I'd like to add some spice to that discussion:
This is something I picked up today while finalizing a deal with my local pro shop:
According to a Canon Rep the 600mm f4 will be discontinued and the 800mm f5.6 will be it's successor ....quite an interesting approach if it is true....
Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 52 Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8031 times:
Quoting AKE0404AR (Reply 17): According to a Canon Rep the 600mm f4 will be discontinued and the 800mm f5.6 will be it's successor ....quite an interesting approach if it is true....
LOL. Replace the 600mm with the 800mm? That doesn't make much sense to me.
IL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 51 Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8020 times:
600 is very close to the 500, and perhaps after doing research, they realized people used the 600 with 1.4x most of the time? Makes sense to me. 100mm difference over the 500 is very little, especially when it's so much heavier (the 600).
What is the point of the image stabilizer on the 800 anyway ?
The 600 is close to 5.5kg already and I expect the 800 to be 1 kilo or so heavier which will restrict hand held use quite a lot and the stabilizer doesn't work on a tripod so............. or did they find a way to solve the problem ?
Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 15): I guess Canon will be sooner with new developments than me finding an answer to this question
Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 52 Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8008 times:
Quoting Aviopic (Reply 20):
A statement I can't find in the press report either.
The EF800mm f/5.6L IS USM, expected to deliver telephoto performance surpassing the current top-of-the-line EF600mm f/4L IS USM
And the 600 is still pictured here. Just a quick note...SURPASSING does not mean REPLACING.
Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 52 Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 7994 times:
Quoting Aviopic (Reply 22): Yes....... that's why I said I could not find the statement it would be replaced.
I wasn't referring to you, but, the Canon rep. My apologies.
INNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 62 Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7957 times:
Quoting Aviopic (Reply 20): The 600 is close to 5.5kg already and I expect the 800 to be 1 kilo or so heavier
Not sure anymore where I read this, I think on the Canon POTN forums, but I recall having read that the 800mm will be as heavy as the 600.
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25 JRadier: €5000+ for the Nikon, so I expect around €5000 for the canon if they ever make it still is a shitload of money where I come from .
26 Eksath: I would rather own a 400mm and a 800mm than a 400mm and a 600mm. That combo would be more useful for me than the latter because when i use my 600mm, I
27 JRadier: damn, someone actually took a look at my website?
28 AKE0404AR: That is exactly the point and the explanation that guy gave me.....lot's of photographers do want the extra focal length. If they discontinue the 600
29 JRadier: Isn't it? I believe it always was made-to-order.
30 JRadier: Ok, I sort of believed you when you said you saw my website, but now I really know you're taking a piss at me . Come on, anyone liking my photos??? .
31 Aero145: What's this? Your photos really are fine! It was, from 1993-2005. No more.[Edited 2007-10-18 15:09:19]
32 INNflight: Oh my.....NOPE! Except for the black and white one in your profile...who took it? Must be a gifted photographer.
33 JRadier: Can't remember. How about we discuss it in INN first weekend of 2008 . Nah!
34 Tappan: I am perfectly happy with my 600 F4 and my new 2x teleconverter. 1200 F8... Mark Garfinkel p.s hope you all are well!! I have not posted in a while. O
35 AKE0404AR: Very nice setup Mr. Garfinkel aka Mr. "I am waiting for an A346 and 744 crossing the full moon at night" Your pictures are awesome........you are da
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I guess Canon will be sooner with new developments than me finding an answer to this question 
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