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Stolen Photo On A.net Ad..  
User currently offlinePrat From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

Never thought I'd see this one.. Where should I send the bill?  Wow!

http://www.hardwiredindustries.com/stolen_photo.jpg

Looks oddly similar to one of mine... http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1078840/M/

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User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 4825 times:

This is actually quite amusing!  biggrin 

User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 4822 times:

I'd send a bill to the company who created the ad, and maybe even one to Demand Media. Make it a big one too.


I'd rather shoot BAD_MOTIVE
User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 4752 times:

Contact the company using your photo in their Ad.

You have a big check waiting...

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 2):
and maybe even one to Demand Media

Demand Media ?? They only show the ad on their website. They can't know if the advertiser has licensed their photos or not. They are not to blame...


Tommy Mogren



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User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 4720 times:

Quoting Tommy Mogren (Reply 3):
Demand Media ?? They only show the ad on their website. They can't know if the advertiser has licensed their photos or not. They are not to blame...

I was just making a point, not being literal there. What I'm saying is with everything being screened so intensely on this site (such as photos, comments on photos, etc...) why would something like this slip through? It's understandable once, but can we put something in place that prevents it from happening again? Maybe the site could contribute to protecting its own contributors?

Drew  wave 



I'd rather shoot BAD_MOTIVE
User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 4710 times:

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 4):

Imagine how much time would be wasted if the Crew has to figure out if all the pics in the ads are licensed or not....

georg


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4666 times:

What is calling my attention, is that not a simple explanation from DM about how this happened. The owner of the copyrights deserve it.

User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4638 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 6):
What is calling my attention, is that not a simple explanation from DM about how this happened. The owner of the copyrights deserve it.

1. DM sells advertising space on Anet
2. the advertiser bought the space and uploaded this ad with the pic
3. nobody at DM and most of the Anet Crew knew that the pic was on Anet (do you think they know every pic on this site?), I'm sure that the advertiser signed the Terms and Conditions and secured DM that he is in the right to use the pics shown in the ad.

Why not simply be angry about the advertiser and stop bashing DM for something of which they are not guilty?

georg


User currently offlinePrat From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4630 times:

DM is not to blame here, and I wasn't trying to do so. They're simply serving the ads which the Advertiser runs. I just thought it was a little ironic that this other company served an ad with a stolen photo on the very site that it had been taken from.  eyebrow 

Site shows as being registered in Germany, although they don't provide an address or much in the way of contact information. It's simply an automatically generated website with useless contact full of ads and links.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9625 posts, RR: 68
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4611 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 6):
What is calling my attention, is that not a simple explanation from DM about how this happened. The owner of the copyrights deserve it.

It is Sunday for f**ks sake.

People do take time off, you know?

Dan, I will help you get to the bottom of this.


User currently offlinePrat From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 9):
Dan, I will help you get to the bottom of this.

Thanks Royal, I've left the company a friendly (not really) email but I doubt I'll hear back from them..


User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 9):
It is Sunday for f**ks sake.

I agree - DM has been working on getting every squeak worked out on this site for the past few weekends. Let's give them a break, this world WILL keep on turning.



I'd rather shoot BAD_MOTIVE
User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4525 times:

Quoting Prat (Reply 10):
I've left the company a friendly (not really) email but I doubt I'll hear back from them..

Dan,

You have a PM with some details that might help you..

Tommy Mogren



Flightdeck Action - Cockpit Videos on Blu-ray and DVD - Flights In The Cockpit- You're Invited!
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4443 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 7):
Why not simply be angry about the advertiser and stop bashing DM for something of which they are not guilty?

Because DM owns this site. Is that simple.

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 9):
It is Sunday for f**ks sake.

I strongly and respectfully recommend you to watch your mouth.


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 13):
Because DM owns this site. Is that simple.

I think you are wrong.

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 13):
Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 9):
It is Sunday for f**ks sake.

I strongly and respectfully recommend you to watch your mouth.

Why? Royal was totaly correct with his statement.



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4377 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 9):
It is Sunday for f**ks sake.



Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 14):
Why? Royal was totaly[sic] correct with his statement.

Why not to use the complete and correct word instead of " f**ks " ? Just because it may be against " The Rules" of this site?

[Edited 2007-11-05 03:10:33]

User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 14):
I think you are wrong.

Please tell me why?

[Edited 2007-11-05 03:11:04]

User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5693 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4353 times:
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Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 16):
Please tell me why?

'cos you are.

DM do not control the content of the advertisments, it is the responsiblity of the advertisers to have appropriate approvals, licensing etc for content and images they use in their material.



If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4347 times:
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It's unfortunate this has happened here, but like others have said DM is not responsible. Just contact the company that makes the ad and sort it out with them.

Tim



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4325 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 16):
Please tell me why?

As a

Quote:
Lawyer, Notary Public, and University Professor. Doctor Juris.

you should know better. Neither a newspaper nor a TV station is reliable for the pics used in the Ads the have sold. They only have to check if the have an appropriate content and no e.g. porn but who in the world would be able to find out if a special pic is copyrighted or not? Even the guys with the most knowledge on this site would have problems to find out if this pic

[photoid:1078840]

is on Anet or not. No Reg, no airline recognisable, no airport seen in the background and so on. It's almost impossible to find out that this pic is on Anet or not. And even if they did, how should they know if the pic wasn't sold correctly or not? Searching and getting an answer from the Photog can take weeks here - not a good thing when trying to make business.

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 14):
Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 13):
Because DM owns this site. Is that simple.

I think you are wrong.

Tell us why you think that you are right with a bit more facts than

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 13):
Because DM owns this site. Is that simple.

georg


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4306 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 17):

'cos you are.

DM do not control the content of the advertisments[sic], it is the responsiblity[sic] of the advertisers to have appropriate approvals, licensing etc for content and images they use in their material.

The problem is that the ad is [or was] on DM's site [A.net] according to Prat.

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 18):
It's unfortunate this has happened here, but like others have said DM is not responsible. Just contact the company that makes the ad and sort it out with them.

Sorry for the unnecessary echo but you're right when say that "It's unfortunate this has happened here,..."

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 19):
you should know better.

I agree with you.

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 19):

Tell us why you think that you are right with a bit more facts than

If DM, or the ad company or somebody else is or not responsible for the facts exposed is jurisdiction of a Court of Law, not mine. Based on the fact that such picture is apparently copyright material of "Dan Barnes" [take a look of the link provided by Prat] ...

Quoting Prat (Thread starter):
Looks oddly similar to one of mine... http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1078840/M/

... he [Mr. Barnes] is the only one who can eventually sue for a violation of his copyrights [once again, "eventually"]. Anybody else. And this is not the case, if he agreed with such publication or sold to somebody else his copyrights, or he just simply doesn't own them.

Is nothing new that newspapers, TV stations even web sites are [in some cases established by law, jurisprudence and international treaties] responsible for the ads contained in their publications, transmissions, etcetera.

But the only person competent to determine and rule about that, once again, is a Judge, not me, not you.

You may carefully check the following. It's illustrative in this regard.

http://www.naa.org/Resources/Article...sibility-for-Fair-Housing-Ads.aspx


User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2604 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4156 times:
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DM isn't to blame like others have said, they dont know where the company advertising took the image from. They just sell them space. Plus they probably sold the space before even seeing the ad and just agreed the ad would not have offensive content.

To everyone bashing DM about everything, WWJD(what would johan done?). Probably nothing different than what DM is doing(or not doing), simply because they dont know all 1 million something photos in the DB by heart.

The photographer should contact the company, and DM should back him up. That's what needs to be done.


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4094 times:

Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 21):
DM isn't to blame like others have said, they dont[sic] know where the company advertising took the image from.

I don' t have a single doubt that Mr. Barnes [Prat] will do what he has to do in order to set responsibilities on this for the supposedly illegal use of his picture.

Good luck Prat!


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