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User currently offlineEmair From Switzerland, joined Sep 2006, 110 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

Hi,

www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20071104_AlbaBCN.jpg

The screener have reject my photo with two reasons.
1-Motive
My opinion: Is not bad motive, but is nice dawn shot over the see.
2-Grainy
My opinion: Where is grainy?!, according to me is perfect.

I'm very angry for this decide of the screener (in training).
Screener, what is your justification?

Best Regards
Emanuele

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User currently offlineShannoninAMA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

Quoting Emair (Thread starter):
1-Motive

Just to back this one up, unfortunately, there is not nearly enough of the "Aircraft" (in this case the wing) in the shot. In other words, this is a shot you would see more often at Sunsetpics.net, not airliners.net  wave 


Shan  Smile


User currently offlineAirimages From Switzerland, joined Feb 2005, 118 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1973 times:
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Hi Emanuele,

Yes, that's the reason for this motive rejection. Not enough "wing" is visible.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Jerome


User currently offlineMichlis From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 737 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

Quoting Emair (Thread starter):
I'm very angry for this decide of the screener (in training).

We've all been there dude where a screener has made a decision that we don't personally agree with and I'm sure it's nothing personal. I think the mark of a great photographer is being willing to look at your own photos through another person's eyes and see what they see. When you can do that, your photography will improve by leaps and bounds.



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User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

Quoting Emair (Thread starter):
I'm very angry for this decide of the screener (in training).

Why? Look at any other window-view shot in the database and you'll see the amount of wing required to avoid a motive rejection. Yours was clearly a justified rejection, what reason do you have to be angry?


p.s. Just because it was screened by a screener in training doesn't mean that the screener didn't properly screen the photograph.



"We break, We bend, With hand in hand, When hope is gone, Just hang on." -Guster
User currently offlineEmair From Switzerland, joined Sep 2006, 110 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

It makes no sense, we must change criterion. Because is absurd, the screeners don't accept that photo so special, only for the small wing. But we accept banal shot with an aircraft parked in the apron. OK, is an Aviation Photography site, but take my photo is possible only inside an aircraft, the overview of my photo is possible only inside an aircraft, the wing is of the aircraft.
Then is not a photo for "Sunsetpics.net" but for A.net, because this picture was taken in flight.
A.net=All photos concerning the flight

Best Regards
Emanuele
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User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

Quoting Emair (Reply 5):
the screeners don't accept that photo so special

Maybe it's special to you, but there's not much aviation related in this photo.

Quoting Emair (Reply 5):
Then is not a photo for "Sunsetpics.net"

You are quite right, this isn't "sunsetpics.net"

Ivan


User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1897 times:

Quoting Emair (Reply 5):
Because is absurd, the screeners don't accept that photo so special, only for the small wing. But we accept banal shot with an aircraft parked in the apron.

Such as this one?

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Photo © Emanuele De lorenzi



It's not doing you any good to argue this rejection. We've been over and over these kinds of shots in the forum.



"We break, We bend, With hand in hand, When hope is gone, Just hang on." -Guster
User currently offlineEmair From Switzerland, joined Sep 2006, 110 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

Yes, that is banal, but isn't bad!
I didn't say what the pictures taken from the parking are bad, but banal!


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Photo © Emanuele De lorenzi




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Photo © Emanuele De lorenzi



Now, what is the best?...wing view with the pink sky and the moon or banal (not bad, banal) Business Jet parked in the apron...

Emanuele


User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1879 times:

Quoting Emair (Reply 8):
Now, what is the best?...wing view with the pink sky and the moon or banal (not bad, banal) Business Jet parked in the apron...

Well, that's all just a matter of personal opinion.

If that were my business jet I'd sure as hell like the apron photo better!

[Edited 2007-11-04 14:52:16]


"We break, We bend, With hand in hand, When hope is gone, Just hang on." -Guster
User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

Quoting Emair (Reply 5):
It makes no sense, we must change criterion. Because is absurd, the screeners don't accept that photo so special, only for the small wing. But we accept banal shot with an aircraft parked in the apron. OK, is an Aviation Photography site, but take my photo is possible only inside an aircraft, the overview of my photo is possible only inside an aircraft, the wing is of the aircraft.

Quit now mate, you're only making things worse for yourself. We are going to agree and disagree with screener's decisions. You got an answer from a screener which is more that a lot of us get. Take it on board and move on.


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

What is this photo trying to show? I think you should have included more wing.

Quoting Eadster (Reply 10):
Quit now mate

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User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

It's a nice photo - but there's not enough airliner showing to be an airliners.net photo. One for the personal collection perhaps.

Drew  wave 



I'd rather shoot BAD_MOTIVE
User currently offlineEmair From Switzerland, joined Sep 2006, 110 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

Ok, you won. I will continue upload photo from the parking....
Thank you for your answers.

Best Regards
Emanuele
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User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 37
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

I can see grain on it, but I still think it's a beautiful image. Have it printed large and frame it.

Don't be angry about it, it's a great image for a different type of use.  Smile

[Edited 2007-11-05 01:07:09]

User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5714 posts, RR: 44
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1768 times:
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I would take the advice of others here and move on!

Quoting Fly747 (Reply 6):
You are quite right, this isn't "sunsetpics.net"

No offence intended but I tend to think the grain and large expanse of grey would see it rejected at sunsetpics.net as well

Cheers



If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
User currently offlineAviatorG From St. Lucia, joined Apr 2005, 264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1694 times:

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Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 4):
Just because it was screened by a screener in training doesn't mean that the screener didn't properly screen the photograph.

Everyone hates getting photos rejected indifferent 

Might as well learn from the rejections, & work at gettin' better shots in the future. optimist 

Spend some time checking out 'wing view' photos on the database. It's a fun & helpful way to inspire yourself..

Good Luck!

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User currently offlineAviatorG From St. Lucia, joined Apr 2005, 264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

It's still very interesting to see how much the scenery can affect a motive.  duck  Regardless of wing percentage visible.. ziplip  If only your shot was taken on final liar 


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Photo © Michael Sender



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