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Motiv For Tailshot: Why?  
User currently offlinePhilthy From Australia, joined May 2005, 123 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

Chaps,

I've just had this tail shot rejected for Motiv. Anybody care to enlighten me as to why?

Thanks,

Philthy


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User currently offlineKLM772ER From Germany, joined May 2006, 615 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

It is probably the cut off horizontal stabilizer and to be honest, the crop isn't really appealing to me either...

Maybe if you have a version where you can include the hor. stab. it might be savable...

Hope this helps!

Regards
Bjorn


User currently offlinePhilthy From Australia, joined May 2005, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

Surely not? That wouldn't be the first cropped-off tailplane on this site by a very long shot.

Nothing I can do about that, anyway.


User currently offlineKLM772ER From Germany, joined May 2006, 615 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2439 times:



Quoting Philthy (Reply 2):

Nothing I can do about that, anyway.

You can always try an appeal if you don't agree  Wink

Cheers
Bjorn


User currently offlinePhilthy From Australia, joined May 2005, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2425 times:



Quoting KLM772ER (Reply 3):
You can always try an appeal if you don't agree

Thanks Bjorn, I'm trying to get some opinions before I decide whether to appeal or not. What grounds would I appeal on? 'Motiv' is one of those "How long's a piece of string?" things that it's practically impossible to argue against.

Philthy


User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 975 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

Philthy motive is subjective at the best of times. I do not think an appeal would be successful as I agree with Bjorn's assessment about the stab being cropped out. In full frame shots this is normally ok but it very rarely works in tail close ups.

Jid



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User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

too much dead space on three sides of the tail, too much tail covered by a very dark horizontal stabiliser.


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User currently offlineFLYB6JETS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2329 times:



Quoting Philthy (Reply 4):
I'm trying to get some opinions before I decide whether to appeal or not

I wouldn't waste the time. It won't win


User currently offlineTZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2294 times:
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Phil

The question which one asks here is: "What interesting factor does this close-up show?"

That is always the question I ask myself when screening close-ups. Some close-up images show logos not visible in an entire-aircraft shot, while others show panel detail or interesting reflections, etc. Others have a dynamic viewpoint, while further examples fill the frame in a more thorough way than a side-on shot would.

Unfortunately these criteria are not met with this shot. It is merely the tail of the plane, and no more detail is visible than a side-on would show.

It is a competent shot, of that there is no doubt. It is simply missing a factor which justifies the crop. A good analogy would be an airport overview showing a couple of administrative buildings versus one which shows the terminal building and control tower.

TZ



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