Carlos From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 225 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1381 times:
Hi Henk,
it looks still oversharpened to me. Check for example 45+19. I still see halos, for example around the wing. Try to sharpen the picture on a second layer and erase the halos.
TweetDriver From Germany, joined Dec 2005, 116 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1370 times:
Ok then it is just plain a bad picture since I only sharpened it with amount 50 @ radius 0.5 wich is according to other people here not a lot...
I did not do anythings else to it this time.
Acontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 33 Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1363 times:
Hi Henk,
Quoting TweetDriver (Reply 4): I only sharpened it with amount 50 @ radius 0.5
That might explain a lot. Radius 0.5 is actually on the 'aggressive' side - I personally have experimented quite a lot with this, and now I'm using a radius of 0.2 as it gives a much smoother look. Anything above 0.3 tends to increase the perceived grain, and in case of very small detail in a picture it almost always gives an oversharpened look.
Btw, the first one (Tornados) is also oversaturated, and the second one (if it wasn't that blurry) I would crop much closer around the aircraft.
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TweetDriver From Germany, joined Dec 2005, 116 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1354 times:
@Acontador: did you see the revised image?
In workshops especially designed for aircraft photography people were talking about USM with a much higher factor and radius.
Jid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 960 posts, RR: 35 Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1352 times:
Quoting TweetDriver (Reply 6): @Acontador: did you see the revised image?
In workshops especially designed for aircraft photography people were talking about USM with a much higher factor and radius.
You must remeber this is a.net and the images have to meet their rules, not a printers rules or another group so if you want your shots accepted on a.net meet their rules.
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Acontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 33 Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1347 times:
Hi Henk,
Your Tornado pic was taken at around midday, with a high sun => bad light, so it will come out very contrasty. As it looks right now, your second edit looks still oversharpened, too high contrast and oversaturated. It's not a bad picture at all, but it's a difficult one to edit.
Quoting TweetDriver (Reply 6): In workshops especially designed for aircraft photography people were talking about USM with a much higher factor and radius.
Not necessary to start an argument, but I didn't say anything about the quantity (=factor) of USM to apply, only about the quality (=radius). The factor of USM will always depend on each picture, but I can tell you that on my pictures (and I usually pick out the sharpest one out of a very sharp lens like the 70-200L) I use one pass of 500% and 0.2, and then maybe if really necessary a second one of 100% and 0.2.
In your case, since the picture is already very contrasty, and it shows a lot of small details, it will probably stand much less sharpening.
Hope it helps and we can see more of your Luftwaffe pictures!
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TweetDriver From Germany, joined Dec 2005, 116 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1315 times:
Well, my intention was not to start an argument.
And I am trying to put some more pictures online, but they obviously all do not meet the standards.
And thank you Lid for lecturing me about where we are.
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