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Should This Have Been Rejected?  
User currently offlineUpcfordcruiser From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 106 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2985 times:

I hate that my first post on A.net is to whine about a rejection... but alas it is. I admit I'm very much a rookie photographer still learning the ropes, but I am learning with every focus and click of the shutter. After browsing A.net for a year now I felt this photograph would be right at home, but apparently not.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...tions/big/20080202_Img1887gml2.jpg

Reject reason: centered distance

What do you think?

Garret

[Edited 2008-02-03 01:46:50]

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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 48
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2976 times:

Garret,
Sorry to say, but the screener that rejected it was mild on you. There are very jaggy bits (the wing) and the rest looks soft/milky. A KLM 747 is very common and the crop could do with less space on the left.
It either needs a completely new edit, or move on the the next shot. Keep trying though, you'll get there.
May I ask what kind of camera you used? Looks like a photo taken with a so-called point-and shoot camera.
Ed

[Edited 2008-02-03 02:00:23]

User currently offlinePepef From Finland, joined Oct 2002, 440 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2976 times:

Should this have been rejected?

Quoting Upcfordcruiser (Thread starter):
What do you think?

Yes.

-Pepef-


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2972 times:

There is nothing in the fore or background to justify seeing the taxi/runways.
The whole image just kind of says 'Bleah, so what?' to me.


User currently offlineKLM772ER From Germany, joined May 2006, 615 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2963 times:

Hello Garret,

The rejection is right. As for the centering, the plane is to high and to right in the picture.. Cropping it closer to the nose you can center it horizontal in the picture and also get rid of the distance rejection!

Anyway, you can also add soft and contrast to the rejection reasons: the image looks very flat which can be adjusted by adding some contrast, and it needs more sharpening..

Hope this helps!

Cheers Björn


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2072 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2952 times:
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Quoting KLM772ER (Reply 4):
As for the centering, the plane is to high and to right in the picture.. Cropping it closer to the nose you can center it horizontal in the picture and also get rid of the distance rejection!



Quoting KLM772ER (Reply 4):
Anyway, you can also add soft and contrast to the rejection reasons: the image looks very flat which can be adjusted by adding some contrast, and it needs more sharpening..

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and there's also a slight greenish color cast.

Maybe the following read will be of some help: http://planecatcher.com/IGRR.htm

Keep trying!

Thierry



"Go ahead...make my day"
User currently offlineUpcfordcruiser From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2858 times:

First off thanks for the polite and detailed constructive criticism of the image, it is much appreciated. After reading your responses and looking closer at the image I agree to the flaws everyone pointed out. I'm currently saving to purchase Adobe Photoshop CS (they're sure proud of that product..) and no doubt that will help refine images.

As far as what camera I used... well I hate to say it but it was a Canon Rebel 350D. Pertty pathetic of me to be using a decent camera and producing not so great pictures. As they say, live and learn.

Garret


User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2854 times:



Quoting Upcfordcruiser (Reply 6):
As far as what camera I used... well I hate to say it but it was a Canon Rebel 350D. Pertty pathetic of me to be using a decent camera and producing not so great pictures. As they say, live and learn.

I've shot my fair share of images way worse with some more expensive equipment. It just takes practice and time. Don't feel bad about rejections, either. Out of my last 50 I'm 10 accepted, 40 rejected... but just keep on pluggin' forward.



-Travel now, journey infinitely.
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2797 times:



Quoting Upcfordcruiser (Reply 6):
As they say, live and learn.

Absolutely!!!


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2762 times:

I think the rejection was correct. Among other things, the shot lacks 'punch' or contrast.


Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2760 times:

Unfortunately, they are right.

On this screen, it looks soft, and doesn't have much contrast. Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me, but it also looks blurry.

Sorry. Better luck next time.


User currently offlineFLYB6JETS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2697 times:



Quoting Upcfordcruiser (Reply 6):
well I hate to say it but it was a Canon Rebel 350D. Pertty pathetic of me to be using a decent camera and producing not so great pictures.

It's that sort of attitude that is going to hold you back from being really creative and producing good quality images. Just because you have a 350D doesn't mean you are going to get perfect images right out of the box. It is something you have to work and work at. Don't get frustrated when a shot doesn't turn out the way you want it. Analyze it, ask questions about it and try it again using the advice you have gained.

Don't let airliners.net dictate your photography realm either. There is way more to this world than just airplane photography. Once you understand that, you will truly learn to enjoy photography. And probably the most important thing to remember - just because it gets rejected from airliners doesn't mean it isn't a good shot.As long as YOU are happy with it, a.net doesn't amount to a hill of beans.


User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2644 times:



Quoting IL76 (Reply 1):
Sorry to say, but the screener that rejected it was mild on you.

Sorry Garret, but I have to strongly agree.


User currently offlineUpcfordcruiser From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Thanks again for the honest feedback. Rest assured no offense has been taken at all. However to those that say the screeners were 'easy' on me, which I do not have a problem with that comment, please elaborate more on what YOU think should be done to improve the shot.

Fly - thanks for the encouraging words. That post of mine was made out of frustration, understandably I hope. As far as having a 350D and perfect images, I totally agree. The shots I've submitted are after countless hours of shooting, downloading, analyzing imperfections that *I* can see, and re-shooting. If you want to see some true atrocities, I can post pics from the first time I went spotting. A friend of mine that took along his Sony 5mp Cybershot was getting better pics than I was with the 350D and a 300mm lens.

But that's why I'm here, I'm not striving to be the next great airliner photographer scoring millions of hits. I'm proud of my photos and even if every single one gets rejected from A.net, I'll still be proud. But I'd like to share my experiences with other like minded individuals, that's why I still submit my work. And hopefully those with a far better trained eye can show me what they see I can improve on.

Thanks again,
Garret


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2632 times:



Quoting FLYB6JETS (Reply 11):
Don't let airliners.net dictate your photography realm either.

True, but using it as something to aspire to isn't a terrible idea. I know I'll never reach the level of constancy of some of the photogs here, but if every once in a while I get an excellent photo for myself because of what I have learned here, that's a huge bonus.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2625 times:



Quoting Upcfordcruiser (Thread starter):
I hate that my first post on A.net is to whine about a rejection

Your not whining, just asking for advice right?

All the rejection reasons are vaild. Listen to the advice here and go forward.

Quoting Upcfordcruiser (Reply 6):
well I hate to say it but it was a Canon Rebel 350D. Pertty pathetic of me to be using a decent camera and producing not so great pictures. As they say, live and learn.

Well that body is fine, just keep shooting and experimenting with the settings and a good book on photography wouldn't hurt.

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 14):
True, but using it as something to aspire to isn't a terrible idea. I know I'll never reach the level of constancy of some of the photogs here, but if every once in a while I get an excellent photo for myself because of what I have learned here, that's a huge bonus.

Well you never reach that level if you use your time trying to move out of the US! Now Ted lose that idea and get out to the airport and shoot more! Remember KY is on my way home next month I may have to stop by and drag your ass to the airport for awhile.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2613 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 15):
Remember KY is on my way home next month I may have to stop by and drag your ass to the airport for awhile.

I hope you mean kTyS.  Smile I'll be happy to shoot with you if I can.


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