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User currently offlineVzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 838 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

I wouldn't have thought that this broke any new ground for composition:


I'd appreciate any opinions as to why it's unacceptable.
(It was also dinged for "soft", but that's obviously more straightforward to address.)

Thanks for your responses.


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User currently offlineMichlis From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 737 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

One thing that bothers me about the photo is that the tip of the nose is cut off. Otherwise, a very menancing shot.


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User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

I like it - reminds me of a cobra ready to strike. See if you can re-edit with the nose probe not cut off and re-try.

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

As the others mention on the probe, and the image appears lopsided to the left, an awkward angle.

User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3959 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2262 times:



Quoting JohnJ (Reply 2):
See if you can re-edit with the nose probe not cut

That will probably be difficult. But I think it may look better with just a little bit more room for the nosewheel and its shadow, and a small section of the probe. That may make clear to the eye that the probe is too long a thing to include - try if this makes any sense.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 3):
the image appears lopsided to the left, an awkward angle.

Jeff, it won't win any awards maybe, but I think it's a very nice photo for here.

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1300 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2254 times:



Quoting JeffM (Reply 3):
the image appears lopsided to the left, an awkward angle.

I had a similar thought, just looking at the thumb... it seems as if the aircraft has lost its symmetry.

The motiv rejection is no doubt because of the cut-off probe, as others have already mentioned.

Good luck with the re-edit.

Best regards,

Walter



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User currently offlineVzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 838 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2170 times:

Thanks for the responses, guys. Recropped version below. Including the probe does, however, add to the expanse of chine on the right.




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User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2129 times:



Quoting Vzlet (Reply 6):

Much more pleasing to the eye I'd say.

Ivan


User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2088 times:



Quoting Vzlet (Thread starter):
I'd appreciate any opinions as to why it's unacceptable.

The nose cut off is definitely a motive rejection.

Quoting Vzlet (Reply 6):
Including the probe does, however, add to the expanse of chine on the right.

You could try framing it portrait rather than landscape?

Toni



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User currently offlineMichlis From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 737 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

Nice edit.  thumbsup 


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