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User currently offlineOpso1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 527 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

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I've got this in the queue at the moment, but I'm worried that some motive issue will result in it not being accepted. Is it OK?

OPSO1

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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5724 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2048 times:
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Quoting Opso1 (Thread starter):
but I'm worried

Don't be, it is fine photo and I am glad I saw it.
If the site does not accept it, that is not always a criticism of the photo.



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2078 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2032 times:
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Opso,

I see the following issues with your shot: backlit (dark), softness, grain and empty space above the cockpit (motive).

Thierry



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5724 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2018 times:
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Quoting ThierryD (Reply 2):
empty space above the cockpit

With all due respect Thierry, tell me how the motive(or the artistic merit) would be improved by reducing that.

Cheers



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4851 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2005 times:
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If closeups/tight crops around the cockpit windows of large airliners like the 747 are acceptable here, then I don't see why this should be any different. However, I do agree with the grain comment above.


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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2003 times:
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It's a nice shot but the grain will lead to a rejection.

Tim



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User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1302 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2001 times:



Quoting ThierryD (Reply 2):
backlit (dark), softness, grain and empty space above the cockpit (motive).

I agree with Thierry, but I still like the shot! Close-ups will always remain a very subjective motiv, some like it, some don't...
I would also prefer somewhat less empty space above the canopy...

I had this one rejected long time ago:


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I have no idea whether it would be acceptable under the relaxed motiv rules?

Best regards,

Walter



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5724 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1996 times:
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Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 6):
I would also prefer somewhat less empty space above the canopy...

Once again, with all due respect..
The Anet policy of cropping to "within a pixel of it's life" can only be taken so far.
I had a go at cropping Opso1's image a little tighter and it did not work for me.(admittedly I did not have access to the original)
I think the photo as posted properly places the working aircraft within it's environment.

Cheers

Chris

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 5):
grain will lead to a rejection.

I am not commenting on the quality/grain criteria



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3997 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

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Walter, yes I, would think that has a chance under the changed rules. You're certainly allowed to retry.

I would prefer somewhat more empty space above your canopy, though Wink

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2078 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1990 times:
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Quoting StealthZ (Reply 3):
With all due respect Thierry, tell me how the motive(or the artistic merit) would be improved by reducing that.

Chris, I know what you mean but I didn't comment with regards to my personal taste but only how I think A.net screeners will see it and they mostly like closer crops.

Thierry



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User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1302 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1970 times:



Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 8):
Walter, yes I, would think that has a chance under the changed rules. You're certainly allowed to retry.

But it would get "double" today,because I remember now that I uploaded another shot (shot taken same day, same side of the aircraft) of the T-Bird...

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 8):
I would prefer somewhat more empty space above your canopy, though

I agree, Peter, I would too, but unfortunately this was as it was shot, no cropping performed...

Best regards,

Walter



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User currently offlineOpso1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 527 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

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I've used Neat Image to get rid of some of the grain. Leaving the space at the top shows that the aircraft is on board an aircraft carrier rather than on land- something a bit different (not that something different is to everyones liking!).

Is this any better?

OPSO1


User currently offlineMichlis From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 737 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1939 times:



Quoting Opso1 (Reply 11):
Leaving the space at the top shows that the aircraft is on board an aircraft carrier rather than on land- something a bit different (not that something different is to everyones liking!).

Agreed, but that ocean must play hell with your exposure.

Quoting Opso1 (Reply 11):
I've used Neat Image to get rid of some of the grain.

Kind of kills the quality of the image...there are noticable artifacts in the photo right below the canopy.



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