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"Blurry" Pics Via "panning Technique"  
User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

I uploaded two Boston sunset photos which had most of the picture blurry except for the A-330 and RJ...This is called panning. Have some of you tried it? I used a 600mm lens on a tripod with a shutter speed of 1/8 of a second. I "followed" the jet in the air by moving the lens on the tripod. I thought it looked pretty cool, but sad to say it was rejected due to being blurry.  Sad  Sad  Sad
Mark G

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User currently offlineKingWide From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 838 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

I've tried it a couple of times  Big grin


J



Jason Taperell - AirTeamImages
User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Hi!
Could you show the picture here? It should be reachable under the path:
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=YOURFILENAME.JPG
Would be great to see the shot from you  Smile/happy/getting dizzy)
My only attempt this far is this one which was made with a shutter speed of 1/5 of a second if I remember correctly and was also rejected.
Regards
Peter



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User currently offlineJasonm From Australia, joined May 2000, 238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1784 times:

Hi Mark,

I've had a pic rejected for the same reason while trying to create some background 'motion blur' but it wasn't TOO bad for a first attempt I might say. I'll get it right one day! Big grin

Jason Milligan
Melbourne Australia


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3994 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

Even for the most seasoned pro, this is a very difficult technique to master.

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Guess the Screener hasnt mastered it either Big grin

Can you post the pics so we can see??

Regards

Paul


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

600mm at 1/8, ouch, that can't be easy!!  Smile



User currently offlineKellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 693 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

I have had the same experience. An evening pan shot of an Alitalia 747 taken on takeoff with the blur. I thought it was probably the best shot of an airliner that I have ever taken. It was rejected. Too "blurred" (I read "arty"). Well, its not my site. But artistic shots can have a problem getting on here.

Allan Rossmore


User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

Love those shots. Could probably never do it myself. But there are a few here in airliners.net...

Look here

(Hopefully this links to my photo album of pans....)

Regards

Ikarus


User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 745 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

I've managed to get a few successful panned shots, lots of failures - and a significant number of borderlines. When panning an aircraft at very slow shutter speeds, you MAY be able to compensate for horizontal motion, but there is also a small amount of vertical motion - either photographer enduced, or due to the aircraft (bumpy runways!). The net result is that getting a good motion blur and a perfectly sharp aircraft is very difficult. More likely, the aircraft is a little less than "crisp" - whether this gets accepted or ditched as blurry is a bit of a lottery.

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlineJetTrader From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 586 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1684 times:


I had this shot added last week.


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Photo © Dean Barnes



Taken with 75-300mm zoom at about 200mm I suppose.

I can't remember the shutter speed but it was shot on KR64 at F6.7 or F8.0 in pretty poor light so it must have been pretty slow as evidenced by the very blurred background.

I'm prepared to admit it may not be pin sharp...but at least Johan and the screeners saw something they liked...

Certainly not an exact science though...  Wink/being sarcastic

Regards,
Dean



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User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1681 times:

How can I show it here?????
Mark G


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1654 times:

Mark and all the others
I saved your pic and will show it here (c) Mark G..
Peter



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User currently offlineScreener4 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

I had a look at both of your panning shots, Mark, and both were rejected by Johan himself. This just goes to show, for those people who think that it matters WHO you are when your photos are being screened, that even the great and the good get photos rejected.

[pointed comment so Sukhoi: it also goes to show that you shouldn't simply lay rejection criticisms at the door of the screeners! (makes a note of "Paul Dopson" in the Screeners' Big Rejection Book  Smile/happy/getting dizzy)]

S4


User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1632 times:

S4 is it because of my bobble hat?

Anyway I thought I would be at the top of the Screeners rejection list already  Wink/being sarcastic

Cheers

Paul


User currently offlineScreener2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Maybe we should have Johan add a "Paul Dopson" reason for rejection, alongside "blurry", "Grainy", etc.

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Seriously, panning is easy. Panning correctly is difficult (and no, I have not mastered the technique by any means - all my attempts so far have produced crap.).

I think this is a fine example of panning

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Photo © J.T. Wenting



And just think, J.T. could barely get any pics on the site a few short months ago! Huge improvements since then. Good going J.T.!

S2


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Nice one Mark, looks like a 22L approach with the Winthrop houses in the background.

I always loved to create the effect of speed.


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Photo © Vasco Garcia



was shot at 500mm, f6.3 and 1/60sec.

Same applies for this LH cargo touching down.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=434036

Vasco


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1614 times:

thanks S2. My problem has never been my photos, but my scanner and my lack of skill in Photoshop  Wink/being sarcastic
Both are getting better all the time (but slowly, so slowly  Big thumbs up)



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User currently offlineAdministrator From Sweden, joined May 1999, 3251 posts.
Reply 18, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1632 times:
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It is very simple from my standpoint: If the background is blurred and the aircraft sharp, it's going to be accepted. If the background and aircraft is blurred it's a reject.

Thanks,
Johan



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User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 19, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

Thanks Johan.
Did not mean for this thread to say "Told ya so"...Looking at it again, I think the picture could be sharper. I will try a re scan and if still soft will try to shoot it again. I know its know Kai Tak, but here in BOS a panned photo only has a few city lights  Sad  Sad  Sad
Keep up the great site!
Mark Garfinkel

P.S
Peter, thanks for the upload.


User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 20, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

Vasco,
Very nice!
Lufthansa touchdown with "tire smoke" and panned effect. Very Good!!
MG


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3154 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1597 times:
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Nice shot, Vasco, but what about the crooked horizon?
I remember Peter's photos were rejected for much less tilt...

Konstantin



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User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1755 posts, RR: 29
Reply 22, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

here's my best panning effort...can't remember what the exposure was like...but it was slow enough!

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Photo © Jonathan Derden



jonathan d.



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User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

This is my only photo that has this panning effect, not as blurry backgrounds as some of you others though.
Can't say I did it on purpose Big grin


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Photo © Staffan Hardie




Staffan



User currently offlineYKA From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1527 times:

Do you need a monopod to sucessfully pan at low shutter speeds?

25 Jderden777 : YKA: That might be a good idea..i have one i just don't use it that much...i'll have to try that out! jonathan d.
26 Post contains links and images Andyhunt : I just uploaded one........ Click for large versionPhoto © Andrew Hunt Made me a happy man!! Andrew
27 LMML 14/32 : Panning has to be perfect for a good result. The variables are the lens and the shutter speed. As a rule of thumb if you are using a 300mm lens, do no
28 Post contains links and images Aer Lingus : Right so here's my late contribution since I was waiting for it to be uploaded. Its also my 100th photo on A.net Click for large versionPhoto © M
29 Post contains links and images KingWide : I'm sure you've all seen this but since we're having a 'plugathon' Click for large versionPhoto © Jason Taperell J
30 AKE0404AR : Martin wrote: "A Question to Vasco: I'm presuming you didn't hand hold that LH Cargo shot, or did you ?" 500mm hand hold at 1/125...hmmm my hand is st
31 Bruce : I tried that technique at BNA back in July. The very first time i had done it and I ALMOST got it perfect. I was panning a Southwest (old colors) that
32 22886 : Just uploaded a couple onto airliner.net, at the moment they are going through the screening process. I really hope some of them make it onto the site
33 Post contains links and images Coolair : Staffan... I think I see too much smart blur on the plane on this shot!! Click for large versionPhoto © Staffan Hardie it looks like its cracked
34 Post contains images Staffan : You think so? I know, it was one of my first photos here and I was trying out what was acceptable or not. I'll try to do a rescan some time. Staffan
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