Now as I can see no reference whatsoever in the new shot for how to level it, I won't contest that one. However, if I change the centering, I'll crop part of the helicopter. Is that the screener's intention?
And as for double... Fine, same bird, same side. But the comment?? I did not give an EXACT date for my ILA '08 visit, but surely an a.net screener knows the difference between 2006 and 2008, and can see the difference between a helicopter on grass and one on concrete. Or the different weather. Comments like that give the uploader the feeling he's suspected to automatically wish to cheat...
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TransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 1346 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 333 times:
Just had another look at the new photo... clearly it's a different event, as the number "368" now appears on the body, which it didn't have two years ago.
If maybe someone could clarify the double rejection and the center, I'd be happy to rework the level part of it.
-> center: Should I crop it closer to the rotor blade at the top and maybe add a few pixels at the bottom, making it 1024x768 instead of 1024x683?
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Acontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1039 posts, RR: 20 Reply 2, posted (1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 319 times:
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Hi Stephen,
I think the double might be a mistake, as you say these are two different ILAs two years apart, sorry for that.
Nevertheless, the other issues remain. Regarding the centering, I would crop out the rotor on the right side to have a crop with roughly equivalent space behind-in front of the fuselage, and I would crop on top just right above the rotor tip in order to have the fuselage as high as possible.
The level part I leave for you .
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TransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 1346 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (1 month 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 309 times:
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Quoting Acontador (Reply 2): Regarding the centering, I would crop out the rotor on the right side to have a crop with roughly equivalent space behind-in front of the fuselage,
Would leaving some extra space behind be an option (?), as I'd rather not crop the rotor... after all, it IS part of the helicopter.
Quoting Acontador (Reply 2): and I would crop on top just right above the rotor tip in order to have the fuselage as high as possible.
Hence my question about 1024x768 instead.
Quoting Acontador (Reply 2): The level part I leave for you Wink.
Geee... thanks!
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Acontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1039 posts, RR: 20 Reply 4, posted (1 month 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 306 times:
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Quoting TransIsland (Reply 3): Would leaving some extra space behind be an option (?), as I'd rather not crop the rotor... after all, it IS part of the helicopter.
I also like to keep the rotors fully in the frame when possible, but helicopters are a bit difficult to center correctly, and in some cases you just need to "axe" a bit. In this particular case, leaving everything in the frame means having the fuselage oddly in the bottom-left corner, with a lot of resulting "empty" space above and to the right. The result should hopefully look a bit like what you did on your accepted picture, where the fuselage itself is more or less in the middle of the frame. Maybe using 4:3 ratio would look better; you want to try and post it here?
[Edited 2008-07-17 08:24:00]
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Dendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1238 posts, RR: 57 Reply 5, posted (1 month 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 294 times:
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Oh my God, I have made a mistake, something that has never ever happened before in my life.
Yes, I did miss that they were taken two years apart.
The rest, I stand by, the image has a feel of needing CCW, quite a bit of it too ....try it and you will see what I mean.
If you feel that the rejection was wrong (and the double part certainly was) feel free to appeal.
Scbriml From United Kingdom (England), joined Jul 2003, 8281 posts, RR: 20 Reply 7, posted (1 month 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 269 times:
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Quoting TransIsland (Reply 6): Later... it's on a computer in a room without air conditioning. I am not about to sit down there in the midday heat.
Want to house-swap? It's cold and wet here, and we haven't had anything yet that vaguely resembles that rumoured season they call "summer".
Framing helicopters is always an interesting challenge, but IMHO, depending on the motive, it is perfectly acceptable to crop the rotors. Keeping all the rotors in can result in the fuselage only occupying a small part of the frame.
TransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 1346 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (1 month 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 226 times:
Quoting Scbriml (Reply 7):
Want to house-swap? It's cold and wet here, and we haven't had anything yet that vaguely resembles that rumoured season they call "summer".
Thanks, but I already have a hotel for my trip to London next month.
As for the photo... Sadly, there's not enough room around the helicopter in the original frame to crop it more "centered" without cutting it. So I can't post a second version.
Thanks for the feedback, everyone.
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Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 2557 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (1 month 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 218 times:
I agree that the Bölkow's fuselage is too much too the left, and also think that cutting off the Eurocopter in the background in this way is rather awkward, even though it's not the subject.
However, I would hope that the fuselage being at the bottom is OK:
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