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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2648 posts, RR: 17
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6593 times:
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Looking at some of these pictures I was wondering...how is it done? Usually I only shoot in the afternoon/dusk because of work/school and I tend to leave during the "blue hour" since my shots come out blurry or out of focus after that. I have tried fiddling with the settings but with little success. I'm not talking about dusk/dawn here, I'm talking about full darkness. Any tips?


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Now, I know you can jack the ISO up to get rid of blurriness but doesn't that cause a lot of grain? For example this picture was done with ISO1600!! and yet it doesn't have significant grain, how?


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Also in all these situations, should manual focus be used? Anyone care to share some hints/tips on these types of shots? If it helps, I am using a Canon 40D with a 100-400L lens.

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9119 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6563 times:
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Quoting Sovietjet (Thread starter):

Very interesting question. I have the same question. I hope someone can provide an answer here.
All my results were amazingly blurry, way too dark, grainy, noisy etc etc... No chance to get a proper sharp picture...

Quoting Sovietjet (Thread starter):
I am using a Canon 40D with a 100-400L lens.

Great camera and great lense, I use the same  bigthumbsup 

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User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6547 times:

Now, someone correct me if I'm wrong here but for the example shots #1 and #3 and #4 I would take spot metering from the #1-flare #3-afterburn #4-moon. Everything else except the light sources in these pictures are dark, if not black (I'm on a bad/dark monitor currently). You should be able to get rather fast shutter speed by taking the reading from these points.

For #2 and #5 you need a VERY steady hand to be able to get panning shots on shutter speeds as low as 1/10 or 1/20 - I can't even dream of that with my shaky hands...  Sad



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9119 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6543 times:
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Quoting DABZF (Reply 2):
For #2 and #5 you need a VERY steady hand to be able to get panning shots on shutter speeds as low as 1/10 or 1/20 - I can't even dream of that with my shaky hands... Sad

Yeah, I wasn't very successful with such shots myself. Most are blurry  Sad

Quoting DABZF (Reply 2):
Now, someone correct me if I'm wrong here but for the example shots #1 and #3 and #4 I would take spot metering from the #1-flare #3-afterburn #4-moon.

It looke like the shutter speed is pretty short, as seen in #2. The background lights are just slightly blurred because of the motion. But the aircraft is pretty sharp.
Pic #4 looks a little grainy to me (but this might be this cheap stupid laptop  banghead  But I guess even here the shutter speed is pretty short and the ISO is at maybr 1600 or so?

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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6541 times:
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High iso and the prominence of bright lights in the pictures make them doable but challenging nonetheless

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9119 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6534 times:
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Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 4):
doable

Yeah, I can see that Big grin

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 4):
challenging

OH YEAH indeed, very challenging. Congrats to the good work of the photographers.  praise 

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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2648 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6500 times:
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What is spot metering?

User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6487 times:



Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 6):
What is spot metering?

Check the manual of your camera and/or google "spot metering"  Wink



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User currently offlineRBayflyer From New Zealand, joined Aug 2008, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6458 times:

I've got a Canon EOS 350D
I battle to take propper night shots...it comes out blurry, whats the best settings, please explain in normal common steps and language please.



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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6460 times:
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Quoting RBayflyer (Reply 8):
I've got a Canon EOS 350D
I battle to take propper night shots...it comes out blurry, whats the best settings, please explain in normal common steps and language please.

First step is to ask why they are blurry. Are you shooting moving aircraft at night or static. If the latter are you using a tripod?

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User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6395 times:

For celestial type night shots (plane/moon), I've used iso 800, n/reduction,1/250sec w/ 600 mm lens and 1.4 adapter...on tripod w/ cable release., Static exteriors,2-3 minute exposures on tripod, ISO 100. Moving objects at night, ...ISO 200-800, fast lens...panning on tripod if able and much luck...
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User currently offlineSamuel32 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6359 times:

I've heard with certain tripod heads (wimberly?) you can get sharp stuff in the worst situations?

Sam,


User currently offlineScotland1979 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 548 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6297 times:
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Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 3):
Yeah, I wasn't very successful with such shots myself. Most are blurry

Me too and I am still working on it. And too bad YXU doesn't have that kind of lights at night. I will try YYZ at night however I need to know which set first before trying YYZ

Quoting DABZF (Reply 7):
"spot metering"

I will check that... thanks for mention that



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