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User currently offlineWithaK From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 255 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

I'm having trouble leveling this picture.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/WithaK_01/20080224_VHLHN_1_e1.jpg
I've realised that I have two conflicting levels in this shot. One being the background and the other being the winch cable. To level one makes the other worse. Any opinions on which one should I use?

Kris

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User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1526 times:

I always level the ground.


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User currently offlineF4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

One of the few pictures to feature a plumb-bob, the hoisted crewman, and it isn't level?!?!?

Gary
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User currently offlineRedfox From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Consider the trees and bushes, do they look right?

I would suggest using the average vertical growth of the bushes, perhaps CCW rotation approx 0.5 degree.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12569 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1512 times:
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If you level the winch cable, the shot looks very unlevel. If you level the ground, the winch cable looks somewhat crooked, but, IMHO, not enough to detract (and certainly less so than having unlevel ground).

Unless you know for sure the ground slopes here, I'd be inclined to use it to level the shot. Like this (cropped too tightly after rotating):
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User currently offlineRedfox From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1507 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):
If you level the winch cable, the shot looks very unlevel. If you level the ground, the winch cable looks somewhat crooked, but, IMHO, not enough to detract (and certainly less so than having unlevel ground).

Unless you know for sure the ground slopes here, I'd be inclined to use it to level the shot. Like this (cropped too tightly after rotating):

Its spot-on now  bigthumbsup   checkeredflag 


User currently offlineWithaK From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 255 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1507 times:



Quoting F4wso (Reply 2):

My first thought was even gravity is working against me.

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 1):



Quoting Redfox (Reply 3):



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):

Thanks for the advice. In the end I have to agree with you all and have leveled using the ground and it does look a lot better. It guess it would be stupid for me to argue that the ground is swinging rather than the guy on the end of the winch.

Kris


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12569 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1482 times:
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Quoting F4wso (Reply 2):
One of the few pictures to feature a plumb-bob, the hoisted crewman, and it isn't level?!?!?

The only problem is, it's very easy for the guy on the end of the winch line to be swinging around (even if the helicopter's in a steady hover).



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User currently offlineNWA783 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

I think the shot that is leveled with the ground looks way better than the original.

Hope it makes it, it's a great shot!

- Josh -



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