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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
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I have contacted an airline about one of my shots, to see if they are interested in using it. I am tempted to grant them unlimited use, but am unsure how much to ask for. I was thinking about something around 300 dollars, but I'm afraid of asking for just a little too much and having them say, "oh, no thanks, we're not interested anymore".

Any tips?

Thanks!

TIS


www.stellaryear.com: Canon EOS 50D, Canon EOS 5DMkII, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 24-70 2.8L II, Canon 100mm 2.8L, Canon 100-4
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User currently offlineEksath From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1315 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1734 times:
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Justify your price to them by pointing out the price scale a stock photo agency would charge for a similar photo hence explaining why you want the $ price you quoted. This allows the client to justify the expense. However, if your picture is generic and there is someone else willing to do it for free so that they can feel good to have a picture out there then forget it because you are up the creek without a paddle....

Some airlines prefer to trade for free tickets as that is easier for them.

[Edited 2008-09-03 06:52:22]


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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1729 times:
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Quoting Eksath (Reply 1):

Some airlines prefer to trade for free tickets as that is easier for them.

I have thought about that, but the airline no longer flied to the NY area, so I wouldn't be able to take full advantage of a free ticket.

As for a photo agency's price, where could I find that kind of information?

Thanks again.

TIS



www.stellaryear.com: Canon EOS 50D, Canon EOS 5DMkII, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 24-70 2.8L II, Canon 100mm 2.8L, Canon 100-4
User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1709 times:
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Gettyimages.com might be a place to start, or other stock agencies like Comstock.


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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1658 times:
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Quoting Dvincent (Reply 3):
Gettyimages.com might be a place to start, or other stock agencies like Comstock.

I reviewed these sites and decided on a price. Now I just have to see if they are OK with it.

Thanks!

TIS



www.stellaryear.com: Canon EOS 50D, Canon EOS 5DMkII, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 24-70 2.8L II, Canon 100mm 2.8L, Canon 100-4
User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1585 times:
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Hi, guys.

The company decided to accept my offer!

They have asked for an invoice. I am a bit unsure how to write one. Can anyone send me an example of one?

Thanks!

TIS



www.stellaryear.com: Canon EOS 50D, Canon EOS 5DMkII, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 24-70 2.8L II, Canon 100mm 2.8L, Canon 100-4
User currently offlineRuudb From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 164 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1578 times:

Open an account on Paypal, there is a part where you can make an invoices, your payment will be taken care of by them.

User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4008 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1573 times:



Quoting Ruudb (Reply 6):
Open an account on Paypal, there is a part where you can make an invoices, your payment will be taken care of by them.

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User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1567 times:
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Great job, Tis! Go for the Paypal invoice method mentioned above. Congratulations on joining the sale club.

[Edited 2008-09-05 07:58:15]


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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1555 times:
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Thanks for the advice, guys!

Unfortunately, I cannot do the PayPal method, as they want me to send them the photos and a hardcopy invoice together as one package. They will review the image to finalize whether they need it or not, and if they realize it is not up to par, they will send the CD back without payment.

(How I can prove that they didn't take the photos off the CD, use them, and send it back I don't know, but I doubt they'd do that as the person I spoke with seemed honest enough).

TIS



www.stellaryear.com: Canon EOS 50D, Canon EOS 5DMkII, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 24-70 2.8L II, Canon 100mm 2.8L, Canon 100-4
User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1549 times:
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Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 9):
(How I can prove that they didn't take the photos off the CD, use them, and send it back I don't know, but I doubt they'd do that as the person I spoke with seemed honest enough).

Red flags here... always, ALWAYS payment first.

A solution to this is to send them a medium res watermarked JPEG copy, with a zip file containing the highest resolution original that has a password protection on it. If they pay you, give them the password. Try to relay your concerns to them and see if they will work with you.

[Edited 2008-09-05 09:14:52]


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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1537 times:
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Quoting Dvincent (Reply 10):
A solution to this is to send them a medium res watermarked JPEG copy, with a zip file containing the highest resolution original that has a password protection on it. If they pay you, give them the password. Try to relay your concerns to them and see if they will work with you.

I took your advice and sent them a watermarked JPG version. I told them if the image is up to their standards I will immediately send them a CD with clean versions of the shot.

However, as I stated before, they asked for a hardcopy invoice. Any tips on how to write one?

Thanks!

TIS



www.stellaryear.com: Canon EOS 50D, Canon EOS 5DMkII, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 24-70 2.8L II, Canon 100mm 2.8L, Canon 100-4
User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1532 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 9):
(How I can prove that they didn't take the photos off the CD, use them, and send it back I don't know, but I doubt they'd do that as the person I spoke with seemed honest enough).

You can't.

You could do a 100% crop of the photo showing a certain part in full resolution and link it to them.



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User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1524 times:
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Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 11):
However, as I stated before, they asked for a hardcopy invoice. Any tips on how to write one?

I've done it before, I just specify a "line item" kind of thing. e.g. photo name, resolution, CD materials, shipping cost... in a table. If you don't feel like designing your own, Microsoft Word has some templates. Have a customer info area with contact name, address, phone, etc for the customer, and the same for you in another area. It should basically just show the cost and contact info; how you doll it up is your choice.



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User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1522 times:



Quoting Dvincent (Reply 10):

I just had an inquiry to purchase one image for a fixed fee...then became three, then four images...client needed asap...this was a contact made online through the site...we agreed on fees, I photoshoped and scanned last weekend...sent extreme low rez thumbnails to client to qualify what they can expect to receive (in high res format) after I receive payment in full...I've since not heard anything from them, nor have they returned my emails. I have since forwarded to them a warning that in no way are they authorized to use any images for corporate/persoanl use...and that I will be monitoring their website. If they continue with the use of the crude thumbnails, (as I think they will try), I will move forward legally against this charter group...further more, if this is the case I will post the corporate name so no one else here gets stung...It was against my better judgement to perform ANY work until I received moneys, however I gambled...Hopefully I have not lost the gamble but I'm not confident about it...lesson learned...again...get the $$$!


User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1514 times:
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Quoting Soon7x7 (Reply 14):
lesson learned...again...get the $$$!

You and I are both in agrement there!

Nowadays I direct people towards my smugmug, which has prints/digital downloads ( with royalties to me), it makes life much easier.



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User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1509 times:



Quoting Dvincent (Reply 15):

I give up...whats a smugsmug...(I'm showing my age I know) just make the answer painless...j


User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1503 times:
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Quoting Soon7x7 (Reply 16):
I give up...whats a smugsmug...(I'm showing my age I know) just make the answer painless...j

It's an online photo hosting site. Smugmug.com. the guys who run it are great. It does cost money but it's so worth it. Upload your photos, can order prints or digital downloads. You can set pricing if you have a pro account. It's a similar idea to Flickr, except it's better and geared more towards the individual.

It's very easy to use too.

You can look at mine to get a general idea.

http://dvincent.smugmug.com



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User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1500 times:



Quoting Dvincent (Reply 17):

Thnxmuch...thats good information...I'll look into this...j


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