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Uploading Of Airliners.net Photos To Youtube  
User currently offlineNQYGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6370 times:

I know I can hardly take the copyright high moral ground by uploading BBC Airport episodes to Youtube, but this guy seems to be taking the mickey. He seems to be inserting Airliners.net images into his videos then putting (copyright) "his name blah blah" all over the video and when someone questioned him about it other videos, he was claiming he knew all the photographers. Evidently he doesn't down to the sheer number of similar videos he has.

http://www.youtube.com/user/kpt4roger


Just making the photographers aware..

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6352 times:
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Quoting NQYGuy (Thread starter):
Just making the photographers aware..

Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention. On a first glance I couldn't find any pics I took.
Every photographer should take a look and contact youtube or the user to let him remove the videos - unless you want him to show it  Wink

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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6225 times:

Till now I found at least 3 of mine (not sure about others - Germanwings in the air looks all the same) and one from Chris Waser (I recognized b/c it was taken at DRS).

Anyone knows a better way to send a removal request to Youtube than http://www.youtube.com/copyright_complaint_form

georg


User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6221 times:

I advise you all to browse thru his videos, many many Anet pics are used most still showing the copyright bar.

georg


User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6191 times:

I watch the B-52 video (if you can really call it a video...) and it was literally nothing but ANet photos and a god awful 1980s Hair metal track.

However, I will point out that the guy had left the Copywrite bar and ANet logos in full view and all are very readable in the video.



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6185 times:



Quoting Whappeh (Reply 4):
However, I will point out that the guy had left the Copywrite bar and ANet logos in full view and all are very readable in the video.

Not in all videos, in one (can't link b/c Youtube is blocked at work) there are only the pics showing Copyright 4roger and that's the point here why I'm a bit angry. Also if he claims to know the Photogs he he's not saying the thruth b/c I don't know him and he never asked me. I always would say yes for such requests, but with not asking he has to face the consequences (removal of the video).

georg


User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6181 times:

I'm not trying to defend him, and I only watched the B-52 one. I was always under the impression from previous conversations here that if the copywrite bar is shown, then its not a breach of copywrites.


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User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1399 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6168 times:
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Quoting Whappeh (Reply 6):
then its not a breach of copywrites

Common mistake, keeping the copyright bar does not give you the right to exploit other peoples material without given consent. Do you think I could take an Anton Corbijn photo and put it on a product of my own as long as I keep "Copyright Anton Corbijn"? Absolutely not.
It is a breach of copyright laws if you duplicate intellectual material without the consent of the owner.



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User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6055 times:

Thanks for the link, just found one of mine in the ERJ-145 video. I sure as hell don't know the guy and never gave him permission. Most annoying, he doesn't even seem to be bothered by watermarks.


I'm an aviation expert. I have Sky Juice for breakfast.
User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6050 times:

What a moron!! Check out the "MD-80" @ 3 minutes 40 seconds.



ROFL



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5837 times:

Almost two weeks and still no reply from Youtube for me

Found my pics in those videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-W-r0cM-kg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmU2cNeUQok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm9JtKJxnaI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEiM0ldEMh0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_J3mq7eM8Y


georg


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5828 times:
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Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 10):
Almost two weeks and still no reply from Youtube for me

Then I would try again, flag the videos, send them emails until you get a reply. This is just inacceptable.

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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5808 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 11):

Did it and I think it's easier to get a credit over 1 Million Euro at Deutsche Bank than gettiung a video removed which is shwoing my pictures....

georg


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9077 posts, RR: 76
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5805 times:
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Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 12):
Did it and I think it's easier to get a credit over 1 Million Euro at Deutsche Bank than gettiung a video removed which is shwoing my pictures....

That is really annoying. Is there a way to contact the guy who published this video? Let him know that you are not amused and will take further steps if he refused to remove the videos?

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It it's not Boeing, I am not going.
User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5798 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 13):
That is really annoying. Is there a way to contact the guy who published this video? Let him know that you are not amused and will take further steps if he refused to remove the videos?

Did this after the last message from YouTube.

georg


User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5794 times:

Can't edit the message to add a few words....

Got a reply from the guy that he had lot's of complaints about those vids lately but most of the pics are from friends/relatives of him who gave permission....yes, he knows almost all Photogs on Anet  Wink

I would advise you all whose pics have been used to write him a short message via Youtube and tell him to remove the videos.

georg


User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5782 times:

The one video that contained a single shot of mine was removed within a few hours after I complained to both YouTube and him. Just be clear, and if he's being difficult, send him an invoice. BTW, I sent him my e-mail in German, maybe he's too thick to understand English.


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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

We are communicating in German. He now told me that he's also an Anet Member and knows many people here and if there's a single chance to keep the videos online with/without my pics instead of removing them....

georg


User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5755 times:



Quoting TransIsland (Reply 16):
after I complained to both YouTube

Sorry, but I always get a message that my PM wasn't delivered to you. How did you adressed Youtube?

georg


User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5725 times:



Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 18):
Sorry, but I always get a message that my PM wasn't delivered to you. How did you adressed Youtube?

Using the link you posted above, in reply #2. BTW, thanks for that link.  Wink



I'm an aviation expert. I have Sky Juice for breakfast.
User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5682 times:



Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 10):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-W-r0cM-kg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmU2cNeUQok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm9JtKJxnaI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEiM0ldEMh0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_J3mq7eM8Y

All those vids have been removed.

georg


User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5510 times:

one user by the name of airlinefreak1994 has A.net photos in her videos and she gives credit to A.net in the description box for the photos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9R5OKmdljA&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTk2CqwIRs8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_Q8e0agXj4
and another user who does not give credit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp6YUceKTio



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User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5506 times:

in my videos i have copyright bar visible at the bottom. i as a member of A.net apologize to any photographers that i used there photos in my videos . my youtube user is the same as my A.net user.

once again i am very sorry
sincerely
76794p



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User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5421 times:



Quoting 76794p (Reply 22):
in my videos i have copyright bar visible at the bottom. i as a member of A.net apologize to any photographers that i used there photos in my videos . my youtube user is the same as my A.net user.

once again i am very sorry

Oooh... how nice of you to be sorry. Now take those videos off Youtube, because not only am I missing the copyright bars, you also seem to have gotten rid of our watermarks.



I'm an aviation expert. I have Sky Juice for breakfast.
User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 5388 times:

i do not remove the watermarks . i just pick images without them


There's always money IN the banana stand.
25 Gliderpilot08 : Why so quick to judge, man. I can understand the view your coming from and I understand the assumptions you're making because it's happened so much t
26 TransIsland : My photo of an AA 738 at MIA that you use in your AA tribute was uploaded to a.net with a watermark. It is in your video without one. However, the qu
27 JeffM : If a thief robs a house or steals a car that is unlocked, does that make it right? You say you are a member....then you had to agree to the terms. Di
28 76794p : dude if that is rule all videos with even a.net picture neeeds to be removed
29 TransIsland : Exactly!
30 JeffM : great observation, and yes, it is a rule. Next time you get a chance, google "copyright".
31 Gliderpilot08 : You got it!! Unfortunatly, this is not a realization to most people. They just don't care. Regards
32 76794p : i removed all of my videos
33 WILCO737 : And with that the thread is locked. WILCO737 (MD11F)
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