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"Double" Clarification Requested  
User currently offlineDomjan From Switzerland, joined Jan 2007, 43 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

Dear all,

I got this one accepted...

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Photo © Hans Domjan



...and this one rejected for "double":


Yes, both are taken by me on the same airport at the same day. The plane even did not move between the two shots  Wink
But I do not consider them "the same as, or very similar to (those already in the DB)" as the rejection reason for "double" states.
Furthermore, there are in the db quite a number of pictures of a particular plane, taken by the same person on the same day at a static exhibition, showing the plane on one picture from one side, on the other picture from the other side.

Would this have a chance for appeal?

Many thanks,

Hans

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User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

While showing the two different sides usually will be accepted, my experience has generally been that one side-on plus one frontal will get a double rejection.


I'm an aviation expert. I have Sky Juice for breakfast.
User currently offlineOpso1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 527 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3124 times:

I hoped to show a different aspect of the deck life by uploading another photograph of the same airframe, but I had this rejected as a double:

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when I have this in the database already:

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I appealed it, but got rejected again and a weeks ban from uploading....  Confused

OPSO1


User currently offlineBeechcraft From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 828 posts, RR: 41
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3119 times:

Opso1,

Let me quote the Reject Reasons:


In order to receive this rejection, the other (similar) photos in the database must also have been taken by you, at the same day and at the same airport. Please do not upload multiple sequential shots of an aircraft during landing, taxiing or take-off, taken only a few seconds apart. Even though these photos may appear to be from different angles, we consider them similar. Please select the best shot from the sequence and upload only that one.

I think you have been around long enough to notice these sentences.

cheers,

Denis



That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!
User currently offlineDomjan From Switzerland, joined Jan 2007, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

Dear Screeners,

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 1):
my experience has generally been that one side-on plus one frontal will get a double rejection

Can you confirm TransIsland's observation as being your general interpretation of the "double" rejection?

Thanks,
Hans


User currently offlineOpso1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 527 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

"Please do not upload multiple sequential shots of an aircraft during landing, taxiing or take-off, taken only a few seconds apart".

Beechcraft,

Have you ever taxied an aircraft on a carrier- that distance takes about 10 minutes to cover.  Wink Never mind, I hadn't actually read that before, but I know now- it would have improved my upload acceptance if I had! Thanks for the info.

I just try to bring something a bit different to your site, not just photos taken from the side of a busy civilian airport. I had hoped that the second photo would be accepted on it's merits as an unusual photograph which would be of interest to your viewers. The photo shows a completely different aspect of deck life, the deck officer still controlling the launch with a flag, harking back to the days of WW2. I doubt that people looking at the photo would stop and think that the other similar photo was not worth looking at having seen the first shot.

One question that I have for you though, why do you not reject photographs from several different photographers who all take the same image from only a few feet apart? With some of them, you can almost work out who was standing on which side of who!

I don't need a website to tempt me by accepting anything I throw at it, but by almost reaching 1000000 views now with just over 230 photos on the database, people appear to like what I bring to your site. The next photos that I was going to upload were some from the Middle East (lets just say that they were not civilian...), but another website will benefit from that now.

Bye, and thanks for all the fish,

OPSO1


User currently offlineBeechcraft From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 828 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2972 times:



Quoting Opso1 (Reply 5):
Have you ever taxied an aircraft on a carrier-

Nope, but i made a Touch and go on one with the 737 in my last Sim Check  Smile

Quoting Opso1 (Reply 5):
I just try to bring something a bit different to your site, not just photos taken from the side of a busy civilian airport.

Honestly, i appreciate that, because that is what fills this Database with life. However, we have to be fair, some people like GA, Heliccopters, ULs or Blimps, some like Airliners (including side ons!), some like Military shots, and some dislike one or more of these examples.

We try to be fair and apply one Standard for all our Photographers, for example the double rule.

Quoting Opso1 (Reply 5):
One question that I have for you though, why do you not reject photographs from several different photographers who all take the same image from only a few feet apart?

That would be an impossible task and that is not what the double rule is meant for. Whose photo would be the one that is accepted? Anyway this is sometimes done by applying a "Common" rejection, if we have let´s say 295 shots already in the Database. A photo won´t be rejected for being common alone, but when the Quality (e.g.) isn´t there, it won´t be added.

We´re not trying to get rid of photographers who try to add something special to this site (far from that!) but rules are there for everyone.

Looking forward to see some more interesting shots in the future,

cheers,

Denis



That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!
User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2929 times:



Quoting Beechcraft (Reply 6):
Nope, but i made a Touch and go on one with the 737 in my last Sim Check

Ahh, the Ryanair Training to get the cheapest landing fees at Mallorca  Wink


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