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Canon 70-200 F/4 Is Or Non?  
User currently offlineNikog From Israel, joined Sep 2006, 152 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 9399 times:

Hi, I want to purchase the Canon 70-200 f/4 lens.
I have two options, to buy 70-200 f/4 or 70-200 f/4 with IS.The IS version is almost twice in price.The general porpose for this lens will be aviation photograthy.
My budget can allow me to buy the is version but the question is if it worth it?
Your opinions please.

Gregory


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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 9398 times:
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Gregory.

My answer to your question is 'no'.

I have the non-IS version of the lens, and it is great. I never have issues with the need for IS under normal fair weather photography - you can always get the shutter speed you need, as the quality is excellent wide open.

I would only consider the IS version if you would like to do a lot of lower light photograhy, or if you like lots of panning shots. The only time I wish I had IS is when I try panning shots (often unsuccessfully) - then I think that facility would be a real help. But whether it is worth almost twice the price is your key question.

Check my photos here if you are interested. All bar the wider angle shots are taken with this older version of the lens.

Cheers.

Paul


User currently offlineNikog From Israel, joined Sep 2006, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9359 times:

Thanks Paul,

Great photos!

My question is not only for IS but as i see on photozone.de, the IS version have much better MTF charts in all range 70-200.The optical performance of IS version is great.The question is how much the difference between these numbers and reality.



Gregory Verba
User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3243 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9358 times:

Gregory,

I have the IS version and I love it. It has helped me a lot under low light conditions. As Paul correctly said, if you're going to shoot mainly in good light, IS might not be that helpful. But, if you want to do other type of shooting apart from aviation, then IS will help sooner or later. The IS system on it is Canon's latest (3rd generation, 4-stops hand-held improvement) and it kicks a$$.

Other advantages of the IS version is that it is considered sharper than the non-IS:

http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/19...200mm-f4-usm-l-test-report--review

http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/19...mm-f4-usm-l-is-test-report--review

and it also has weather-sealing, that the non-IS version doesn't have.

IMHO, the extra money I paid for the IS version was worth every penny. But it really depends on the type of shooting you will do...

Tony



Nikon: we don't want more pixels, we want better pixels.
User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3243 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9354 times:



Quoting Nikog (Reply 2):
as i see on photozone.de, the IS version have much better MTF charts in all range 70-200.

You've been doing your homework.  Smile

Quoting Nikog (Reply 2):
The question is how much the difference between these numbers and reality.

I can't tell you about the resolution figures as I haven't used the non-IS version, but IS itself really helps a lot in reality...

Tony



Nikon: we don't want more pixels, we want better pixels.
User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9338 times:

As others have said, in OK to good light there really isn't much use for IS on a lens with a maximum focal length of 200mm. Now 400mm is a different story.....

I have the non-IS version and although it may not be quite as sharp as the IS it still remains one of Canon's sharpest lenses. Is it worth the 100% price increase for a facility you may rarely use? Certainly wasn't for me. I've managed the odd decent panning shot but it's difficult, and besides I was only experimenting as this type of shot is not my preference.

Personally for aviation I'd take the non-IS version but you're now faced with several important questions you need to ask yourself. One thing's for sure - you won't be disappointed with either purchase!

Karl


User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9317 times:

I'm looking at this lens for my next big upgrade. My only question is... is the difficulty with panning the lens itself or.. (no offence)... your hands?

The reason I ask is, I use a Sigma 70-300 and have managed pretty good results with it when panning. So it shocks me that you guys struggle...  scratchchin 

I was looking online at prices, the cheapest in the UK seems to be about £400, which is great. Online from the US though, it can be had for a mere £350 which is a steal!



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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9312 times:

Dale,

Get it in the UK - warranty and all can be affected when buying from abroad. Additionally, you can guess what sort of day customs and excise will have if they manage to stumble across it.....

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 6):
is the difficulty with panning the lens itself or.. (no offence)... your hands?

Both. Obviously IS is going to get you more consistent results and the panning action will be more dramatic, however I've managed some pretty good low shutter speed shots using my non-IS coupled with steady hands (don't try it on a Sunday morning after the night before though!).

Unless you frequently shoot in low light or panning is a real preference, just get the standard version and use the saving to expand your L lens collection.  Smile

Karl


User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9311 times:



Quoting JakTrax (Reply 7):
Get it in the UK - warranty and all can be affected when buying from abroad. Additionally, you can guess what sort of day customs and excise will have if they manage to stumble across it.....

Good point. Didn't think about the warranty or anything.

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 7):
I've managed some pretty good low shutter speed shots using my non-IS coupled with steady hands (don't try it on a Sunday morning after the night before though!).

 Wink I stayed in this Saturday night so managed a steady hand  Wink

Think I'll get this lens after Christmas when prices drop...



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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9308 times:



Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 8):
Think I'll get this lens after Christmas when prices drop...

L series lenses tend to maintain their steep prices I'm afraid. The RRP of the 100-400L actually recently went up!!!

Must admit though, the 70-200 F4 L has (very) slowly decreased in price over the last few years; but that doesn't mean to say that prices won't go up again as demand increases (try getting your mits on one around Xmas time!)

Karl


User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9279 times:



Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 6):
The reason I ask is, I use a Sigma 70-300 and have managed pretty good results with it when panning. So it shocks me that you guys struggle... scratchchin

The question I have is how slow did you go? I have the 100-400 and panning is not that easy. I have managed to get some good results but most of my panning shots are garbage  Smile

Ivan



Contrails Aviation Photography
User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3243 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9271 times:

BTW, there's a $75 instant rebate on the IS version right now (at least in the US).

Tony



Nikon: we don't want more pixels, we want better pixels.
User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 21 hours ago) and read 9207 times:



Quoting Fly747 (Reply 10):
The question I have is how slow did you go?

I've done both 1/100 and 1/80. 1/80 gave me the best results.  Smile



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