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Selling Photos - Aviation Stock  
User currently onlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5059 posts, RR: 15
Posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4205 times:

Has anyone experimented with or had experience with selling your plane pictures thru stock photo agencies? One in particular that I have looked at is called Alamy. They have a lot of aviation photos and the prices are pretty high. Although for contributors photos get screened and can get rejected for a number of reasons many of which are similar to here, I still see many of their photos don't measure up to what is displayed here. Things like level, cropping, centering, planes too far in the distance, etc. I wonder how lucrative the sales potential is (for a good photo) over there.

Then there are "micro-stock" sites where photographers get commissions of like 19 to 21 cents per sale - but surprisingly, I've heard of people making decent money at it. How, I don't know!

Airliners.net is still the way to go if you want to display your aviation images, but I'd like to grab a little more of the sales market.

bruce


Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
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User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4193 times:

Bruce,

ever looked at ATI? It might be what you are looking for..........

Vasco


User currently onlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5059 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4186 times:

What is ATI?

bruce



Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4183 times:

Ever heard of:
AirTeamImages?

Vasco


User currently onlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5059 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4151 times:

Oh....now I get it. But they require that you not sell images anywhere else, right? Not even through the a.net "contact photographer" link. How are their sales? Do people really make anything through ATI?


Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4117 times:



Quoting Bruce (Reply 4):
Do people really make anything through ATI?

Yes. And ATI is pretty well known among many large publishing houses both here and in Europe. Derek does a great job with the team!



Nashville, Tennessee KBNA
User currently offlineSFO2SVO From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

I believe most stock / microstock do not accept images with recognizeable trademarks (such as airline names). Most a.net images do have them.


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User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4063 times:



Quoting Bruce (Reply 4):
Do people really make anything through ATI?

Derek is able to make a living off it, and I guess the UK is not the cheapest place for housing either - makes sense, you need a stable roof with all that rain  Wink

Quoting Bruce (Reply 4):
But they require that you not sell images anywhere else, right? Not even through the a.net "contact photographer" link. How are their sales

Depends, there is associate and full membership. The latter do sell through ati only. Never been a problem for me, there's hardly any good sales coming via a.net anymore, mostly people looking for freebies.

Sales are good.

Depends on what you shoot and how if you are egliable, ati does not want members to take each others business because of for example similar spotting places. There's no point in having five photographers from New York, or Sydney, you surely get what I mean.



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3964 times:



Quoting Bruce (Thread starter):
One in particular that I have looked at is called Alamy. They have a lot of aviation photos and the prices are pretty high.

Don't take the prices displayed on Alamy's website as gospel. They give some pretty hefty discounts to regular clients.

Quoting Bruce (Thread starter):
Although for contributors photos get screened and can get rejected for a number of reasons many of which are similar to here, I still see many of their photos don't measure up to what is displayed here. Things like level, cropping, centering, planes too far in the distance, etc.

For print publication t's not a good idea to crop tight a.net style. Tight crops severely constrain the layout options open to the page designer. A tight 3:2 nose-to-tail crop isn't much use when you have to fit a photo in a squarish space.



Make the most of the available light ... a lesson of photography that applies to life
User currently onlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5059 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (5 years 12 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

So perhaps if I offer any of my a.net photos on a stock site I'll obviously have to re-edit them (because the ones I save that are on here are downsized to only 1024px and 2mb for the photoshop file) and when I re-edit them I should crop wider than what would be acceptable here? I can understand that.

How about one called "stock connection"? There seems to be a bunch of aviation photos on there but nothing on their site about requirements. Some of their photos do have airline logos so i assume they're for editorial use.

bruce



Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

In any case, for Alamy you will need to upsize your images to 48MB uncompressed (equivalent to around 5100 pixels length for a 3:2 photo) so assuming you're using the usual 8-12MP camera you can't afford to crop too much before you upsize.

I don't know anything about Stock Connection. Hadn't heard of them before actually.



Make the most of the available light ... a lesson of photography that applies to life
User currently offlineJspitfire From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 308 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3793 times:



Quoting INNflight (Reply 7):
Quoting Bruce (Reply 4):
But they require that you not sell images anywhere else, right? Not even through the a.net "contact photographer" link. How are their sales

Depends, there is associate and full membership. The latter do sell through ati only. Never been a problem for me, there's hardly any good sales coming via a.net anymore, mostly people looking for freebies.

So what is the difference between associate member and full member, besides being able to sell elsewhere? How does payment work? Does ATI pay you right away when one of your photos is sold?

I'm interested in finding out exactly how it works, I'm thinking of trying to become a member.

Jason


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3776 times:



Quoting Jspitfire (Reply 11):
So what is the difference between associate member and full member, besides being able to sell elsewhere? How does payment work? Does ATI pay you right away when one of your photos is sold?

A few other differences. Full members get priority with sales when possible, full members get press creds for shows or events, etc.

Payment is quarterly.



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (5 years 12 months 20 hours ago) and read 3710 times:



Quoting INNflight (Reply 12):
full members get press creds

Do get that w/o being a full member!

Vasco


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