WILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8533 posts, RR: 78 Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2956 times:
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I get some from time to time. Not too often though. But usually it is clear what's wrong with the picture as stated in the rejection reason. Only if some special comment is required it will be added.
F4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2905 times:
Comments are helpful for contrast rejections, ie, too little or too much.
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EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4943 posts, RR: 28 Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2852 times:
Hardly any comments .. once or twice in the last few months. Not even after appealing. I think a few words in rejections would help a lot to know what the screener is seeing, but oh well ...
AirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3853 posts, RR: 57 Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2832 times:
I get one every once in a while. Had one 2 days ago for a shot that was rejected for level, saying that it needs CW rotation. No matter how short the message is, it's always helpful.
Chukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1937 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2829 times:
Quoting Harley (Thread starter): Are Screener comments on rejected photo ... a thing of the past
Same here. Very few recently; none when IMHO they are most needed - 'motive' rejections, for example.
No wonder when the screeners have to do the "firefighting" trying to reduce the queue that has been getting out of hand again. Apparently, no time for comments.
Ghostbase From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 354 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2802 times:
Have had quite a few rejections in the last couple of weeks, also several screener comments which have tended to be for the 'borderline' rejections which have encouraged me to make changes which should result in the photos then being accepted. Always appreciated
Chukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1937 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2709 times:
Quoting DerekF (Reply 11): I had a motive rejection that was rejected on appeal without comment
Join the club ... I received three rejections for 'motive' with no comments within a couple of weeks. I appealed one of them, and it was rejected again (needless to say - no comment), and another one is still in the appeal queue. Most likely, will be rejected in the same fashion.
The problem is that most of the time I do understand why my pictures are rejected. With these three I don't, so the silence on the screener's end doesn't help.
When they do write something, even rejected, you feel like you are being treated like a person. When they don't, especially when the rejection reason is not exactly clear-cut, you feel just like a discarded number in the queue. Like, "Why rejected?? Are you dumb or what? Can't you see it for yourself? It is bloody obvious!!!"
Michlis From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 737 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2680 times:
I will get them from time to time mostly when there is a quick-fix and a suggestion to re-upload afterwards.
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Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3779 posts, RR: 20 Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2404 times:
I get quite a few screener comments with my rejections. No complaints there.
When I appeal a rejection, however (I rarely do, so this is not based on a lot of evidence) and the photo is rejected again for the same reason, I rarely seem to get a word of explanation and I think that's a pity. Obviously, I'm at a loss with the rejection or I wouldn't have appealed.
Peter
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GASGH From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 15 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2379 times:
I had two photos rejected for "level" in the last 24 hours.
In both cases, I re-checked my editting work, found the lamp posts perfectly vertical. So... I appealed. Lost again, and in both cases with no additional guidance from our esteemed "screeners".
However, moderators have been very quick and efficient at deleting my posts on the subject as having been posted in the "wrong place" or "off topic". Let's see how long this one lasts!
And as said, and perfectly ON TOPIC, neither the original screener nore the 'head screener' on appeal left ANY extra info as to what they looked at to make their judgements.
Harley From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2364 times:
Getting a level rejection without a comment is probably one of the worst.With no indication of what the screener is leveling to (obviously not what you choose) you're in a sorta of no win situation.I wonder how many great shots never resurface for fear of another rejection.
DerekF From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 824 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1997 times:
Just had 13 rejections out of 20 uploaded - (7 still in screening which I expect to get rejected anyway) and no comments at all - it really isn't very helpful. Many were rejected previously due to a database cock-up the other week and reuploaded as instructed - what a waste of time
Comments would be a great help as I don't understand many of the rejections and without an explanation there is no point in reuploading.
I think a comment should be compulsory on things like level, motive and contrast.
Redfox From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 172 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1988 times:
Quoting DerekF (Reply 20): I think a comment should be compulsory on things like level, motive and contrast.
Erm, WHY?
Put yourself in the shoes of a screener. You have a minimum amount of photos to screen each day to balance with the pressures of family and normal day-to-day issues. Do you think you would provide an exact comment for every rejection when the automated script conveys the message.
I'll help...
Level = Level (not so straight, needs levelling)
Motive = Great picture not for this site (nothing can be done)
Contrast = Contrast (look at the histogram)
On a positive note I have recently received a screener comment that was helpful in addition to the automated script. I appreciate the time and effort spend by our volunteer screeners.
If you are getting 13/20 rejected I would look at improving your photography or camera processing technique rather than bashing the site.
Level = Level (not so straight, needs levelling)
Motive = Great picture not for this site (nothing can be done)
Contrast = Contrast (look at the histogram)
Sarcasm never looks great in print.
Instead of a level tick box why not level CW or ACW, instead of contrast have a too much or too little contrast rejection. Those are the sort of things that are asked frequently in rejection threads.
Motive should have an explanation - when you get identical motives accepted and rejected I can only assume it is down the screener's personal taste and that isn't helpful at all.
Quoting Redfox (Reply 21): On a positive note I have recently received a screener comment that was helpful in addition to the automated script. I appreciate the time and effort spend by our volunteer screeners.
Lucky you - I have had no screener comments in 16 rejections out of 20.
I will edit the pictures accordingly and have another go at getting them rejected for something else.
Quoting Redfox (Reply 21): If you are getting 13/20 rejected I would look at improving your photography or camera processing technique rather than bashing the site.
You saved the best til last. I can only assume you have seen my rejected photos to make a remark like that.
I have an idea - if I got some comments then that might help " improving your photography or camera processing technique"
Bashing the site? What crap - if you can't say anything constructive - say nothing at all.
Granite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5542 posts, RR: 66 Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1924 times:
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Derek
Quoting DerekF (Reply 22): Lucky you - I have had no screener comments in 16 rejections out of 20.
Maybe if you start treating the screeners with respect they will help you out by adding comments. Everything you say on the forum is always negative. I would probably have to search back some months or even years for anything positive. Screeners are encouraged to add personal comments whenever they can but they are not 'contracted' to do so on all image rejections.
I have lost count the numbers of personal comments I have added with rejections today and even had some feedback as to how much they are appreciated. Yes, I do add my name and mail address to some comments if they want additional help.
Regards
Gary
25 DerekF: And my point is out of 16 rejections - no comments at all - no clues - some of the rejections are marginal at best and if I got any comments I'm sure
26 Blackbird1: Hi all, seems to be an interesting discussion going on, let me join the party. With an acceptance rate of about 50% to 60% (mainly 'boosted' by my old
27 TweetDriver: This is the reason why I gave up uploading for a while now. I had a picture a couple of weeks ago and added in the comments block that this picture is
28 Chukcha: Gary, can you honestly say the same about me - that I don't treat screeners with enough respect? Or that my posts are always negative, for that matte
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... I received three rejections for 'motive' with no comments within a couple of weeks. I appealed one of them, and it was rejected again (needless to say - no comment), and another one is still in the appeal queue. Most likely, will be rejected in the same fashion.
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