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User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 364 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

Hi.


i am considering going oshkosh next summer and would like to know what the spottting oppurtunitys are there.

thanks
76794p


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User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

Just spotting during the summer, or you thinking about going for Airventure? Big difference between the two!

User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3085 times:

i am thinking about airventure


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User currently offlineGimliGlider From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3072 times:

I think the question would be... where is there not a spotting opportunity at Airventure?


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User currently offlineBrasila684 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

theres is another question....do you want to shoot the aircraft landing on the runways or do you want to shoot the aircraft on display?? i have answers for both

Brasila684

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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4030 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3048 times:

I'm probably going as well. I guess the static aircraft aren't that hard, but how about the runways? What's the minimum mm I should have?

Any other tips are of course welcome.


User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 week ago) and read 3042 times:



Quoting GimliGlider (Reply 3):
I think the question would be... where is there not a spotting opportunity at Airventure?

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There are some 10k+ planes that come in during the week, and nearly every one of them can be walked right up to and photographed as much as you like. The air show grounds are not separated from operations, so you have plenty of opportunities to photograph planes taxiing in and out.

There are a few photographer stands for the show open to the public, but these are usually packed. The flightline for the show is length of the entire runway, so good spots are relatively easy to come by. There's no fence or barrier or to block your view, so you can just take a seat in the grass right up on the line and shoot the entire 3-hour show... And then for an hour or two after, there's a mass of planes coming and going, so we usually sit out and enjoy that - btw, air operations at Oshkosh are unlike anywhere else in the world.

Oh, and I recommend watching this video... really gives you an idea of what Airventure is all about.
http://airventure.org/about/spirit_video.html

The photos from OSH in the database give you a good idea of the kind of shots you can expect to walk away with. 2008 was a great year, with over 500+ images by various photogs accepted into the DB:
http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...0%2F%20KOSH%29&distinct_entry=true

Lemme know if you have any other specific questions.

Mike

PS I just saw that Burt Rutan's WhiteKnight2 is slated to make an appearance at Airventure in 2009. Already shaping up to be another great year... 216 days left!


User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 week ago) and read 3042 times:



Quoting Brasila684 (Reply 4):

i want to do both.

76794p



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User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 week ago) and read 3038 times:



Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 5):
What's the minimum mm I should have?

Just to give you a general sense... for the larger birds (like the 747 or C-5, if either of them come again), they're in the frame side-on at about 40mm, maybe even less. You're definitely right up close to the action.

But the majority of planes at OSH are smaller. Military jets and warbirds need about 300mm to fill the frame side-on, and smaller props/homebuilts need about 400mm to fill the frame side-on.

I use a 100-400, and it lets me get just about everything. But I definitely wouldn't mind a 500 or 600mm prime for those aerobatic routines  Smile


User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

is a 55-200 lens good?


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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4030 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3023 times:



Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 8):

Thanks for that Mike!
The biggest I have is my 40D with the 70-200, but with a 1.4x extender. That'll have to do the trick  Smile

Will you be there too then?


User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5067 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

Oshkosh is very good for photography. Most of the tips have been presented in the replies above and that's all true.

It is hard to say which day is best to come. They have the main attractions spread out over all the days just to get people to come to all of them!  Smile The closing weekend (Fri/Sat.) usually has the biggest air show with a large warbird demo. Sunday - closing day - after 5pm almost all the planes on display will line up to depart and you can shoot them all, in good light.

Monday - opening day - features a rock concert.

This year, the weekend prior to Oshkosh there is an air show on the lake front in Milwaukee about 2 hours south by car. The USAF T-Birds are scheduled there. Who knows? Maybe one of the T-Birds will show up on opening day at Oshkosh.

The weather is usually hot so be prepared, except this past year it was nice and comfortable. Also you will expect to do a lot of walking so again, be prepared. The runway is what, like 10,000 feet and there are planes to see all the way parallel to it so a rough guess is you'll probably walk 2 miles - in the heat with your camera gear. There might be rain, but I have gone to Oshkosh now 4 years in a row and there has never been a rain-out. If we get a storm just take shelter and wait. And there are plenty of places to take shelter.

I have posted many photos from 2008 Oshkosh but I have many, many more to upload. I had put those aside in order to work other photos the past few months! In January I will be uploading a LOT from Oshkosh.  Smile

Bruce



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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4030 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3001 times:



Quoting Bruce (Reply 11):
It is hard to say which day is best to come.

How about all days? Big grin


User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

this

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 12):
How about all days?

this years dates are july 27th -Auguest 2. me and my dad were thinking about the 27th-31st and leaving on the 31st giving is three full days. with 5 daily flights to MKE and there is one that leaves around noon and that is when all the foriegn tails get into IAH and so it would be like and aviation packed week. wil



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User currently offlineDlednicer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 547 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2956 times:
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In a country where people photographing airplanes are regarded with suspicion, Airventure is a welcome relief. At Oshkosh, you are expected to take pictures of airplanes and owners are proud to have photos taken of their birds. I shoot there mostly with a 17-85 lens, as you can walk right up to aircraft, instead of having to shoot over or through fences. The only slight downside is the crowds make clear shots difficult at times.

User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2946 times:



Quoting Dlednicer (Reply 14):
I shoot there mostly with a 17-85 lens,

the two lenses i have are Nikkor 55-200 and 15-55 are those two sufficent for oshkosh?



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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4030 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2942 times:



Quoting 76794p (Reply 15):
the two lenses i have are Nikkor 55-200 and 15-55 are those two sufficent for oshkosh?

From what I understand from the previous posters, that will be sufficient.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2922 times:
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Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 5):
I guess the static aircraft aren't that hard

Probably the biggest challenge is making sure no people/cones/tents/flags are blocking any part of the aircraft. Your photo could be rejected even if a tiny corner of a tire is blocked.

Quoting Bruce (Reply 11):
This year, the weekend prior to Oshkosh there is an air show on the lake front in Milwaukee

Thanks for mentioning that. I had no idea.

Quoting Dlednicer (Reply 14):
The only slight downside is the crowds make clear shots difficult at times.

Indeed. I like either showing up super early, or sticking around after the show, when the crowds thin out.

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User currently offlinePlaneshooter From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 days ago) and read 2915 times:

Would like to add that the main runway used is 18-36 so from about noon on you will have the sun at your back.

User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2900 times:



Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 10):
Will you be there too then?

Yup, I'm planning on it. Probably get in a day or two before the show starts, and stay through to Friday or so.

Quoting Bruce (Reply 11):
Maybe one of the T-Birds will show up on opening day at Oshkosh.

That'd be awesome. I'm sure they could send one of the two-seaters like the Blues did a few years ago.

Quoting Bruce (Reply 11):
Also you will expect to do a lot of walking so again, be prepared.

For sure. And take a few minutes to figure out the tram system on day 1.


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4030 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2889 times:



Quoting Bruce (Reply 11):
the weekend prior to Oshkosh there is an air show on the lake front in Milwaukee about 2 hours south by car

So that's july 25-26?

Quoting Planeshooter (Reply 18):
Would like to add that the main runway used is 18-36 so from about noon on you will have the sun at your back.

Good news!


User currently offline76794p From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2875 times:



Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 20):

So that's july 25-26?

according to the website they do not have they dates yet



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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5067 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2838 times:

I don't know which website you are looking at but I got my info from fencecheck, and the Milwaukee Air Expo is scheduled for 7/25 - 7/26 2009, and the Thunderbirds have that in their schedule as well. Also scheduled are Lima Lima, Firebirds, and Golden Knights.

Of course they could cancel out - that has happened before even after the T-Birds or Blue angels were scheduled.

bruce



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