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Canon 20D Quality And Image Size  
User currently offlineRKinkor From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 6 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 5764 times:

I just recently stepped into the digital world by picking up a used 20D and am looking for suggestions on what settings to use. Any help would be appreciated.
Randy

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User currently offlineF4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5735 times:

I have had good service for four years with mine. The bulk of my images are taken with ISO 200, maximum file size, and using the shutter priority mode. I also set the correct lighting conditions and use center-weighted autofocus. Enjoy it.

Gary
Cottage Grove, MN, USA



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5733 times:

Search the forum, this has been discussed on many occasion!

Fergul  sun 



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User currently offlineMichlis From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 737 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5724 times:

Great camera! I use it professionally as a sports photographer. Personally, I use Av and Manual a lot within the ISO 200-800 range depending on the lighting conditions. Lenses are important...I've used the Canon 100-400 L series, 70-200 2.8 L-series and last weekend I picked up the Canon 50mm 1.8 EF II to shoot basketball.


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User currently offlineRKinkor From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5702 times:

Thanks for the advice so far. I just starting out with digital but have done film since the 80s. My main problem seems to be with soft pictures and digital noise. Will using sharper image in the parameters help or should I just try to use software to sharpen? I do not have the budget for the L sreies lenses and am having to make due with 75-300 non IS zoom from Canon. Thanks for all the help and Fergul I will also search but I was in a terrible hurry as I want shoot some b4 work today. F4wso do shoot at MSP by the way? I work there as a fueler.
Randall Kinkor
MN USA


User currently offlineMichlis From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 737 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5698 times:



Quoting RKinkor (Reply 4):
My main problem seems to be with soft pictures and digital noise.

Digital is a whole different animal compared to film and in most cases the cameras are designed by engineers who aren't photographers! You really need to learn about the beast. There is a great instructional DVD on the 20D...can't think of the name of it...just go to eBay and type in Canon EOS 20D DVD. Very helpful in understanding the world of digital and the 20D in particular.

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Will using sharper image in the parameters help or should I just try to use software to sharpen?

I avoid messing with the parameters. Some of your problem may be ISO selection and dealing with the damnable 9-point focus...keep it to the center focus point and you should be okay for most photography.



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User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5680 times:

Randy,

you got yourself a fine piece of equipment. I bought mine back in 2004 and still shooting with it (also it is only a back up these days) with the right lens, image quality is stunning to say the least. The 40 and 50D may be a bit nicer but for a beginner it is more than enough.

I did operate mine mostly in A priority, shot RAW images, sharpening, contrast etc was set to 0 value. Everything else was done in PS later on.

Since you will be rather close to the subjects I am sure your lens will just do fine for the moment.

Post some pictures and we'll go from there. I am sure questions will pop up....

Vasco


User currently offlineF4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5660 times:

Glad to hear you are local. We can get together for some photography sometime. Feel free to contact me through my profile.

Gary
Cottage Grove, MN, USA



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5654 times:



Quoting RKinkor (Reply 4):
Fergul I will also search but I was in a terrible hurry as I want shoot some b4 work today. F4wso do shoot at MSP by the way? I work there as a fueler.

OK No worries! Big grin

Still have my 20D, its hardly used these days as my 1D is the main one.

To Start, Aperture Priority at f8, ISO as low as possible. and let the camera do the rest. You can worry about the other stuff later when you get used to it.

Have fun and enjoy.

Ohhh that sweet smell of Jet A1 fuel, better than skydrol in your eyes!!!  wideeyed 

Fergul  sun 



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User currently offlineRKinkor From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5591 times:

Thanks again for the help. Gary I'll contact you soon. Busy again today, I will be uploading a pic of Sun Country I took yesterday that looks real good. Fingers crossed. I do have some pics at myaviation.net though only the most recent one is with the 20D the others are with an A2e

User currently offlinePaulinbna From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1114 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5409 times:
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Quoting RKinkor (Reply 9):
I will be uploading a pic of Sun Country I took yesterday that looks real good. Fingers crossed.

Could you post the picture here so we can see what they look like?



Canon 50D user; 100-400 MM L IS 10-22 MM, 60MM Macro
User currently offlineApollo13 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5400 times:



Quoting Michlis (Reply 5):
Thanks for the advice so far. I just starting out with digital but have done film since the 80s. My main problem seems to be with soft pictures and digital noise. Will using sharper image in the parameters help or should I just try to use software to sharpen? I do not have the budget for the L sreies lenses and am having to make due with 75-300 non IS zoom from Canon. Thanks for all the help and Fergul I will also search but I was in a terrible hurry as I want shoot some b4 work today. F4wso do shoot at MSP by the way? I work there as a fueler.
Randall Kinkor
MN USA

Randall,

I too own the non IS 75-300 lens. I find it a great lens to start out with. I own the xsi and I think that with the practice of getting that crisp shot with a non IS lens will work out greatly once i actually do buy an IS lens (hopefully the 100-400) sometime within a decade (expensive!!!).


User currently offlineRKinkor From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5350 times:

Sorry been busy at work and the weather. The picture was rejected. But I fixed it (I hope) and reuploaded it. I have not figured out how to add a picture to this post but the initial image is at
myaviation.net search for 804SY or Kinkor for photographer search
Randy


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5329 times:


MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Randall Kinkor
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Randall Kinkor



I guess you are talking about those two images?

Vasco


User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5306 times:
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Quoting RKinkor (Reply 12):
The picture was rejected.

My guess was that it was rejected for over-sharpening and noise (Sun Country). You should be able to remedy that next time by changing your camera settings as mentioned above.


User currently offlineRKinkor From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5275 times:

Yes thats what the rejection was for noise and oversharpening. Pictures prior those 2 were taken with an EOS a2e and they we got rejected for softness so i guess i got carried away.
I have yet to hear back on the resubmission on the suncountry.
Randy


User currently offlineF4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5263 times:

Unable to contact you through your profile, we do have a Google group for Minnesota Aviation Photography and Spotters set up.
http://groups.google.com/group/MNaviationphoto

Gary
Cottage Grove, MN, USA



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User currently offlineRKinkor From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5214 times:

I'll check it out WSO

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