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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 72
Posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2592 times:
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Hi All

Currently we are not able to screen watermarked images. Those that have been uploaded with watermarks are on hold until a solution has been found by DM. Obviously due to the tragedy with paulo this solution will take longer than we had expected.

So there are basically two choices. Either be patient and wait it out, or upload your images without watermarks and reupload them later to get the watermark added.

Sorry for the inconvenience
Tim


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User currently offlineRedfox From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 172 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2567 times:

Tim, thanks for letting us know.

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User currently offlineDamien846 From UK - England, joined Dec 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Thanks for the up-date Tim,
Silly question and sorry if I have missed the answer somewhere in the forum...
But if we upload with out watermark, can it be added latter? Sod's law I have started uploading with watermark!
Cheers

User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2556 times:
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Yes a watermark can be added later during reupload

Tim


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User currently offlineDamien846 From UK - England, joined Dec 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Great I will remove and upload with out.Thanks Tim.

User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2151 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2552 times:



Quoting TimdeGroot (Thread starter):
Currently we are not able to screen watermarked images.

wasn't this covered here:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...tion_photography/read.main/325834/


So I don't get banned for doing it anyway, I will ask if this solution is appropriate.

Can we as upload our photos with the watermark already imbedded in the image so that we don't have to check the watermark box on the upload page? i.e. upload the image with the watermark, right click and save the image (with watermark) from the queue and upload it again with without checking the watermark option. This gives the uploader the watermark and gives the screener the ability accept/reject the image.


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User currently offlineVivekman2006 From India, joined May 2006, 484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2529 times:

That will not work. In addition to the watermark, a copyright bar is also added to the bottom of the image. When you save the image while uploading, it will be saved with the watermark and the copyright bar. If you upload this image again, it will add another copyright bar to the image. Hope this helps.
- Vivek.

User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2521 times:
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And that would also mean FC members will see the watermark, which is not an option.

Tim


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User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2151 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2494 times:



Quoting Vivekman2006 (Reply 6):
That will not work. In addition to the watermark, a copyright bar is also added to the bottom of the image.

I didn't think I needed to state that the copyright bar at the bottom would need to be removed. I stand corrected.

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 7):
And that would also mean FC members will see the watermark, which is not an option.

Well right now, First Class members are seeing none of my new photos, including the watermark, until this gets fixed. How about we upload with the watermark now and then re-upload properly when this problem gets fixed?


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User currently offlineTimdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2491 times:
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Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 8):
Well right now, First Class members are seeing none of my new photos, including the watermark, until this gets fixed. How about we upload with the watermark now and then re-upload properly when this problem gets fixed?

Sorry but that is not an option. In addition to the issues I described it would also be difficult to screen those images with watermarks visible.

Tim


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User currently offlineStil From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

Hi.

Thanks for the info. I think I'll leave my pics on queue, no matter when they'll be screened.

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 5):

I don't think it's a good idea, because -and this is a photograph quality advise as well- every time you save a jpeg image, the image is losing quality even if you are using the best quality-size settings. Try to have your pictures saved only one time in the editing process.

Stil


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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 727 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2258 times:
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Tim,

For accepted photos that are missing. Can we NOW reupload them and request priority screening with a copy of the acceptance email?

Ken.


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User currently offlineRuudb From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 163 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2244 times:
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You can upload them I did it already, but now they get rejected, so don't be certain they will be in the database.

User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2237 times:
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Hi ken

Yes you can upload them again, but without a watermark otherwise they'll go on hold!

priority screening will not be given. We apologize, but due to the sheer number of images involved this would not be practical for us.

Tim


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User currently offlineBluedevil From South Korea, joined Oct 2006, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2129 times:

I understand about situation and no priority for missing accepted photos...But is there no rejection for reupload of missing photos?
If I inform to screener this is missing accepted photo by comment then will it be not rejected?

User currently offlineAC888YOW From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 506 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

Is there any estimate as to how long we might have to wait for a solution? A few days/weeks/months? That would probably help some of us decide whether or not to wait it out or re-upload without the watermark.

User currently offlineYanqui67 From Puerto Rico, joined Jan 2005, 503 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2047 times:



Quoting AC888YOW (Reply 15):
Is there any estimate as to how long we might have to wait for a solution? A few days/weeks/months?

That is a very good question, I was waiting on that info to make my decision.

User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1524 posts, RR: 67
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2043 times:
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Quoting AC888YOW (Reply 15):
Is there any estimate as to how long we might have to wait for a solution? A few days/weeks/months? That would probably help some of us decide whether or not to wait it out or re-upload without the watermark.

We are not sure.
The tragic death of Paulo has caused this delay to be far longer than we could ever have anticipated and his last message to us was concerning this very problem a couple of hours before he died. Bearing in mind that it is now (as I write) the middle of the night in California, still the weekend and the day of a memorial service I would not expect to hear anything for another day or two.
If you have watermarked images that are queued and wish to remove them from the queue that is likely to help is in the long run. It would be better still if you are willing to wait before you upload them again as we already have that massive backlog that we have been unable to screen.
Screening has actually been going very well but for the waiting watermarked images.
Mick Bajcar

User currently offlinePaulinbna From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1113 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2025 times:
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Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 17):
Screening has actually been going very well but for the waiting watermarked images.

So does it mean that if your picture is in screening (with a watermark) from the 16th, that you (screeners) are still able to reject them and not just add them?


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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1524 posts, RR: 67
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1998 times:
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Quoting Paulinbna (Reply 18):
So does it mean that if your picture is in screening (with a watermark) from the 16th, that you (screeners) are still able to reject them and not just add them?

Paul
It is impossible to be specific and a lot of them will simply be added at the click of a button as soon as the problem is sorted. We continued to screen after the problem was discovered by simply leaving a comment for the image to be added once the problem had been resolved. Some other images will have simply had first, some second screen and we cannot check without a great deal of searching, time that would be better spent on screening what we can.
If you have them showing as in screening you could be pulling accepted images and the older they are, the more likely that is to be the case is the best I can offer.
Mick

User currently offlineTopGun3 From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

I was just wondering....what if we put our own watermark on our images? Either a personal one or the Airliners.net logo. I would prefer a watermark on my images even for the ones that are seen by the screeners and First class members.

Let me know what is the policy on this.


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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 72
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1907 times:
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topgun, only our official watermarks are allowed

Tim


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User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2151 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 3):
Yes a watermark can be added later during reupload

do we know if the re-upload function is working at this time (without watermarks)?

[Edited 2009-02-02 09:35:48]


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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1524 posts, RR: 67
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1831 times:
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Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 22):
do we know if the re-upload function is working at this time (without watermarks)?

It is working with or without watermarks

Mick

User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4041 posts, RR: 31
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1677 times:
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Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 23):
It is working with or without watermarks

Just to clear things up, are the reuploads with watermarks adding ok?
So if I upload a shot that I would prefer watermarked and it gets accepted, can I immediately reupload the watermarked version with the reupload working successfully?


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25 Dendrobatid: Yes, but bear in mind that one screener re-screens all of the re-uploads and if he is not about, there can be a delay, it is not an immediate, automa
26 Silver1SWA: Ok, thank you. By immediate I meant not have to wait until the bug is fixed. Thanks Mick.
27 TimdeGroot: Hi All DM is working hard to find a solution, and looks like they may have found one. We are testing right now. Thanks so much for everyone's patience
28 Neophyte: Sounds good Tim, keep us up to date. Cheers Timo
29 UnattendedBag: looks like the watermarked photos are being processed and added. there seems to be one change though. watermarks are not visible on the medium sized i
30 UnattendedBag: It also seems that the watermark has defaulted to the very top of every photo that has been added in the last few hours. I know of one photographer w
31 AKE0404AR: Can second that......mine was positioned 2/3 down and appears now on the top. V.
32 Vivekman2006: I am happy that the problem seems to have been resolved. I had two of my photos (from 18th-19th January) accepted today I can see the watermarks on my
33 TimdeGroot: Hi Guys Yes things seem to be working ok. Can someone else confirm the changed position of the watermark? This may just be a problem with affected ima
34 Jid: All the images I have had added have the watermark positioned at the top of the frame. I always position them at the bottom of the frame, so they have
35 Jid: Further to my last post, images added today have the watermark in the correct space which is excellent
36 AC888YOW: I've just had a few watermarked images added to the DB. All watermarks are present and correctly placed. Thanks.
37 Acontador: Thanks for the feedback! Please continue with it, it helps us a lot, and we can easier control any possible problems before they spread out. We are al
38 WILCO737: So, you start now screening all the ones with watermark from the 20th or parallel with the ones from 2nd Feb? I see the queue is dropping fast, keep
39 TimdeGroot: Older images have priority as always
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