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Photography Forum Not As Active/fun Any More?  
User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5894 times:

Hi all,

Having spent a good few years trawling throught this photography forum (normally on an hourly basis!) I've noticed there seems to be much less traffic here of late. This is my favourite of the site's forums and to be honest it used to be a pretty good place to hang out - helping new folks with their troubles; assisting in camera/lens choices; the odd constructive debate (such as this I guess) and even the occasional tongue-in-cheek jokey, jokey thread. Constant and consistent action seems to have ground to a halt almost, and I've begun to wonder why.

I have several theories, which I think may have either individually contributed to the recent downfall, or come together to a head to cause it:

1) Newbies by-passing the site and having their images hosted elsewhere, due to strict quality regulations and the often-criticised beginner queue situation.

2) Unhelpful individuals who constantly criticise new folks about their posts 'not belonging here' or who offer ridiculously obvious and/or sarcastic answers. This would lead to newbies being afraid to post, believing we're all pro's here.

3) Last year's events surrounding copyrights, etc. and the many bugs encountered at the same time (some of which persist although I know things are difficult for the team at present).

4) Queue length. I know it's come down dramatically these past few weeks but the repercussions of when the queue was ridiculously long (two weeks plus) may take a while to clear.

So, can anyone shed more light on the matter or offer any other theories? Or does anyone disagree with me? Am I noticing something that perhaps isn't there?

Let's have a good discussion - feel free to share any thoughts whatsoever folks.

Karl

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User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

Can't offer any suggestions as to why you see it as you do. I for one have become a lot more active in the past few months or so, after having lurked and not posted anything for almost three years after I joined, so my example kind of goes against what you seem to have observed.

I know I didn't have the confidence to give advice or add suggestions until I got the whole uploading to a.net thing down, and now that I have a few shots in the database and my acceptance ratio is pretty good, I feel like I can actually contribute something useful.

I'll admit that when I first tried submitting photos and of course had them mostly rejected, I was too shy/embarrassed to participate much, and I can certainly see that as being a cause.

As to your theories specifically:

1) When I was a newbie, I could have gone to the site(s) which are more lax in their standards, but I didn't, because I didn't want the easy way. I wanted to be a part of the best site, so I can't say for sure that this site is being by-passed because it's the best/strictest.
2) While I have seen the occasional unhelpful/snide post towards harmless questions/inquiries, it isn't half as bad as it can be. I frequent some (non-aviation) photography forums where people will absolutely rip into newbies (or anyone for that matter) who disagrees with them or would ask obvious questions.
3) I wasn't too active here when the problems happened last year, so I can't really speak to that, and while the bugs that have been happening are annoying, they aren't so bad that I would just give up on this site ...yet...  Wink
4) The queue length when it was bad back in last summer just slowed things down, and didn't dissuade me from checking out what was going on here...

So in short, I can't really offer you any reasons, but like you, I would be glad to see a more active (and tolerant of novices) forum. Let's hope!

Dana


User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5872 times:

I am quite new to the Photography Forum and have also noticed that there doesnt seem to be as much activity as the other forums. I usually frequent CivAv and Non-Av but as I want to get into photgraphy I have started visiting this area to try and get advice and look at what other people view to be good/bad photos

Quoting JakTrax (Thread starter):
1) Newbies by-passing the site and having their images hosted elsewhere, due to strict quality regulations and the often-criticised beginner queue situation.

I for one have always thought of a.net as the best site out there for photos and although I still havnt had an uploaded photo accepted yet, I will keep perservering and will be proud once I do get accepted.

Quoting JakTrax (Thread starter):
2) Unhelpful individuals who constantly criticise new folks about their posts 'not belonging here' or who offer ridiculously obvious and/or sarcastic answers. This would lead to newbies being afraid to post, believing we're all pro's here.

I have had a few people who have been a bit "off" with me for not being as educated as them when it comes to photography. Most people have been helpful, especially yourself, when it came to me asking what type of equip to buy etc.

Quoting Dlowwa (Reply 1):
I'll admit that when I first tried submitting photos and of course had them mostly rejected, I was too shy/embarrassed to participate much, and I can certainly see that as being a cause.

This is the same for me. As mentioned earlier I have yet to have an acceptence and feel that I dont really have the knowledge or expertise of others, therefore I cant really participate very much.

Lee



There's flying and then there's flying
User currently offlineApgphoto From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5872 times:

Karl,

You should know as an old hand that the forum goes like this from time to time.

I'm sure some of the "old" guys, Vasco, K and alike will join me and say that it is nowhere near as much fund as it used to be, say 7 or 8 years ago. Blimey we are old hands  Big grin

Cheers

Paul



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User currently offlineSpurusho From Singapore, joined Feb 2009, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5870 times:

I am quite new here, having registered only a couple of weeks ago, but I plan to stick around and spam the forum with my shots of aircraft  airplane  that are totally inadequate to make it to the acceptance queue  devil   biggrin 

Seriously though, I have received very helpful tips and advice from members here, and over the last 2 weeks, although I have zero photos accepted yet, my post-processing skills have greatly improved (atleast I think so). So I like it here.

I hope the traffic improves because there seem to be a lot of highly talented and helpful folks here.


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5824 times:

For me, it's the poor weather (too hot, too dark or too much rain). I just haven't taken any photos for ages.

It's also that I work long hours - so I get home and the last thing I want to do is look at a computer screen.  Wink

Remember, all forums dealing with specialised topics (like cars, planes, photography) seem to be slowing down. It's not just here. I do also believe the new design and the large amount of bugs have badly tarnished the reputation of this site.


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5779 times:

I think it was a smaller and closer knit group 8+ years ago. A lot of us had met each other at least once somewhere down the line. You could have friendly 'jabs' back and forth and nobody got offended, because everybody knew it was just a joke. Now you type on the keyboard too hard and you get banned. I still stay in contact with a lot of folks though.

User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3514 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5771 times:

There is only few types of topics that fit this forum:

1. Advice on equipment
2. Moaning about rejections
3. Pre screen advice
4. Moaning about rejections
5. Advice on spotting at airport XXXX
6. Moaning about rejections

After some time you must get used to it and find it no longer exiting.


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5748 times:

The latest prop arc thread imho was one of the few which kinda reminded me of a few years back. Lots of fun to read through yet totally constructive and helpful.

Otherwise, I guess people just moved on at some point or another. This site has changed a lot over the time.



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5746 times:



Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 2):
This is the same for me. As mentioned earlier I have yet to have an acceptence and feel that I dont really have the knowledge or expertise of others, therefore I cant really participate very much

I think this is a trend amongst the noobs to be honest - with this site being so strict these days those folks with no or only a couple of shots on here are scared of participating. Add to this the snide remarks some regulars have a habit of making (we know who they are) and it really is no wonder. I don't think this is the sole reason however.

Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 6):
Now you type on the keyboard too hard and you get banned

Possibly another reason. I've been browsing this site for just under six years now and have been a regular forum participant for close on three of those. I've been photographing aircraft for over 20 years but only decided to give uploading here a try in Feb 2007. I guess I'm perhaps kinda new in a way compared to the really 'old-hands' here but I would consider myself pretty experienced in the field. Luckily for me the very first photo I ever submitted was accepted (with a little help from a nice Icelandic bloke!), followed by my second and third (which I processed myself). After that I got cocky and uploaded quite a few, which were all rejected! Still, I think my experience helped me to quickly develop a successful workflow (which I still use today) and, although I don't have thousands here, my acceptance ratio is now very respectable.

I don't know if anyone remembers when I first started posting here (?) but I certainy didn't hold back and always had plenty to say, even if at times it was controversial!

Maybe another reason is that A.net has become so big it's now reached (almost) everyone it's currently going to reach - surely there are only a limited (albeit vast) number of people interested in aviation and such a site as this? Maybe things have levelled off for a few years, until the next lot of newbie enthusiasts come through.

And one final thing for all the experienced and well-known folk here - be nice to these newbies, 'cos it's them that are gonna be running the show when we're old; and it's them that will continue, through passing on of our experience, the legacy of fantastic pictures, photographic knowledge and a passion for 'planes!

Karl


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3767 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5738 times:

Oh by the way, I also think the problem is I know fewer people around here today than I did e.g. three years ago.

There's a couple of  old  members still around who either just put too much into the site over the years, and therefore keep it all going (respect is due for that! Tim for example), and there's a few members who have faith that the community is what makes (or breaks) the site (also, respect...i.e. Wilco).

Then of course there's also the odd crew member who is simply stuck in a place like Kinshasa, and therefore spends his whole day on A.net Big grin ( Thierry....??? )

Otherwise, I don't really know most folks on here anymore, and most threads aren't even worth replying to me. Sorry I guess.

Florian



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5725 times:

IMO a big reason is the existance of the post-screening and pre-screening mega threads. Before you could post a picture on a separate thread and quickly get an opinion, now you have to use the mega threads, where mos of the times the picture gets unnoticed.
Those short threads were also great to learn from, since you would see what was posted, and in two or three replies the proper in detail answer would be provided.

rgds



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2072 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5700 times:
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Quoting INNflight (Reply 10):
Then of course there's also the odd crew member who is simply stuck in a place like Kinshasa, and therefore spends his whole day on A.net  ( Thierry....??? )

Hey, that's not even true; I also visit some other sites and read books, eat, sleep...  Wink
Out of here in a couple of hours anyway.  Smile

Coming back to the thread topic, I can only speak for myself. The aviation photography forum is also my favorite one and actually the only one I visit daily. I've ups and downs; there are times (like at the moment) when I post a lot and others when I barely post at all. This can have different reasons: no time, no (for me) interesting topic or all necessary things in the threads at hand have already been said and I don't see the need of adding a post only for the sake of it.
Another reason is that there are very few regulars here. I miss the feeling of visiting old friends when coming to the forum, if you see what I mean. I don't say I don't like having newbies around, in the contrary I welcome that very much, but still I'd love to see the oldies contributing more regularly. I don't know how that can be achieved but maybe with more threads like the one Flo mentioned in his post.
So guys, scratch your head and come up with some good topics to discuss; I'm sure there are plenty!!

Cheers,

Thierry



"Go ahead...make my day"
User currently offlineBoeingfreak From Germany, joined May 2005, 398 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5698 times:



Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 11):
IMO a big reason is the existance of the post-screening and pre-screening mega threads

I agree with you, that is one point.

Another point might be, that there is an excellent alternative website (which recently received a very neat looking new design and became the biggest aviation photo database on earth just a few days ago).

For me, there is a big difference if a site is run by business-men or by aviation enthusiasts, maybe other A.net uploaders/ forum members felt the same.

I also noticed a rise in bad behaviour, not only on the forums but as well from the crew towards the uploader/visitor/forum member.

Let me give you an example: In September 2008 I uploaded two pictures of two different Lufthansa Airbus A330 on a taxiway (on one the registration was perfectly visible, on the other it wasn't due to the angle), the one with the visible registration gets accepted, the other gets rejected for "double upload" with a rude comment ("if you do it again... ban etc. Don't try to fool us.."). So I decided to appeal, provide the EXIF files of both pictures (as a screenshot, uploaded to imageshack and included the URL in my appeal message), after a few days it gets rejected without any comment for the same reason.

That kind of arrogant and ignorant behaviour made me leave.


User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5692 times:
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Megathreads have helped clean up this forum significantly. An unintended consequence is that sometime those individual rejection/prescreen threads did kickstart some interesting discussions. Unfortunately a consequence of the construction of this forum is that we can't have subforums where, for example, you could post individual threads about prescreens and rejects but still keep them out of the main forum.

When we sit and think about it, what can we talk about in here? New photos (don't see this happen very often except for the amazing photo threads), camera gear (this happens now and then), spotting locations (use the search function), new a/c types, fleet changes (use the civav/.mil forum), political matters (help, I was accosted by the police)... There's also the postprocessing threads, software threads...

I know Karl is a decent guy and a good poster, and I would say that the forum is built by us, the users, and it's what we make of it. If it doesn't seem as active... let's start trying to make it more active. Like Karl, I looked at the photos on this site for about six, seven years but didn't pay for an account to post until sometime around 2007. Maybe we just need to redefine the scope of the forum a bit and we can kickstart some new discussions.



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2072 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5688 times:
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Quoting Boeingfreak (Reply 13):
That kind of arrogant and ignorant behaviour made me leave.

Florian, I don't know the background of your story so I won't comment on it. All I can say is that all crewmembers do their "job" out of enthusiasm for the site and hence try to be helpful towards any contributor. That this goal is not always achieved is purely human.
A private mail to the involved person(s) very often solves the issue pretty quickly.

All this to say you and your pictures are more than welcome here!  Smile

Cheers,

Thierry



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5683 times:



Quoting JakTrax (Thread starter):
1) Newbies by-passing the site and having their images hosted elsewhere, due to strict quality regulations and the often-criticised beginner queue situation

This is nothing new and I think you will always get a certain % of newbies staying and the ones leaving. Actually the one thing I have noticed is the decrease in participation of the rude users here that used to post in the help threads in a brash sometimes nasty way that will also run noobs off. Which is a good thing.

Quoting JakTrax (Thread starter):
2) Unhelpful individuals who constantly criticise new folks about their posts 'not belonging here' or who offer ridiculously obvious and/or sarcastic answers. This would lead to newbies being afraid to post, believing we're all pro's here.

As I just said I have seen a sharp decline in them which will only help bring more noobs here.

Quoting JakTrax (Thread starter):
3) Last year's events surrounding copyrights, etc. and the many bugs encountered at the same time (some of which persist although I know things are difficult for the team at present).

Yep this is one of the big pieces in this puzzles. I have to admit I am growing a little impatient with all the bugs here, to the point I didn't renew my FC membership. I wish they would close the queue and screen the remaining pics and just fix everything and then get the forum and the rest worked out. We are apporaching two years since the DM takeover and I know Johan's code had to be a bitch but I don't see any reason to have this many at present. I wish someone would dive in and take the bull by the horns and fix them. I think you would see a huge boom here if you did so.

Quoting JakTrax (Thread starter):
4) Queue length. I know it's come down dramatically these past few weeks but the repercussions of when the queue was ridiculously long (two weeks plus) may take a while to clear.

This is also a part of it though I feel a small one. It is true that a short queue is great but uploaders both newbies and veterans have to understand the screeners are volunteers and have lives like we do. Some of the veterans who have the time can also apply to be a screener and help the issue as well.

Quoting Spurusho (Reply 4):
I am quite new here, having registered only a couple of weeks ago, but I plan to stick around and spam the forum with my shots of aircraft that are totally inadequate to make it to the acceptance queue

That is the spirit! Hey you listen to the advice you will start getting them in the DB.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 11):
IMO a big reason is the existance of the post-screening and pre-screening mega threads. Before you could post a picture on a separate thread and quickly get an opinion, now you have to use the mega threads, where mos of the times the picture gets unnoticed.
Those short threads were also great to learn from, since you would see what was posted, and in two or three replies the proper in detail answer would be provided

Bingo, I have to admit my participation in this area dropped off a lot once that was changed in fact if you look at the timing many did the same. To go to a thread with that many replies and that many pics being posted for help it is too confusing and the threads just get out of control. I know from a mod point of view and the sites it's great but for the people actually in the thread it's confusing as hell. In fact I rarely if ever give advice unless someone breaks the rule and posts their own which is quickly deleted. I would be willing to bet if you went back to the old way and just deleted posts that have run their course and the thread starter can request deletion to do so, you would have much more people participating. I just don't have the time to go to a thread with 200 + replies and search what pic, who is saying what and then post. It's a mess.


User currently offlineStil From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 345 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5633 times:

Hi everybody.

Quoting Danny (Reply 7):
There is only few types of topics that fit this forum

This is one of the things I've noticed lately. I use to see this forum often, but most of the times just to find out threads based on the same topics. I'm only talking by myself, not saying there's only boring threads, but not finding interesant threads. I have to admit here my imagination tends to zero when it comes to propose different threads, but I remember there used to be some non-standard and av-photograhy related interesting and funny threads.
Or maybe be just me as I don't like the same thread type as I'm growing older!

...And, of course, this is a thread I like!

Stil



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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5628 times:
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I think that years ago like Vasco said there were a lot of members who knew eachother personally. That resulted in a great atmosphere. People could take shit from eachother because they were friend. Many have since left and I think that there's not a lot of connection between many of the members now. Just one reason.

We are looking into making some changes to improve things here.

Tim



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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5595 times:



Quoting Cpd (Reply 5):
For me, it's the poor weather (too hot, too dark or too much rain). I just haven't taken any photos for ages.

That could be said for a bunch of us, me included. A majority of photogs on here are in the northern hemisphere and as we all know, it's still winter here. Spring is close, but the cold is still here and that means less photography. Or in some cases, more editing of old pictures. As the warm months get closer, it will most likely start getting busier here with people traveling and snapping pics.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4838 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5570 times:
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Ok let me try this again.

First of all, I think the changes in the forum have been gradually occurring since before DM took over. However, the the way in which the ToU change and the homepage redesign was handled perhaps became the final blow for many and they packed their things and took off.

Perhaps though, the reasons the more experienced contributors have gone is related to the same problem seen in some of the other forums like Civ Av and Tech Ops. Remember the days when those forums were filled with interesting dicussions with industry professionals? Many of those key members have long gone. You had someone like a retired 747 Captain being told he is wrong by some punk 13 year-old flight sim brat.

What I also find interesting is, some members that once offered helpful and insightful information about photogaphy a few years back have for some reason changed their approach and contribute little other than condescending remarks to anyone lacking equal knowledge and experience of a subject. Surely that drives people away.



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User currently offlineLulu2009 From Canada, joined Feb 2009, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5566 times:

While I'm an Airliner's.net newbie, I'm looking forward to learning how to make my aviation photos 'better' since, frankly, most of my friends are convinced I'm a bit nuts to enjoy standing at the side of the runway and watching planes land, move, taxi and take-off.

 Big grin

There are only so many photos I can share with them before they say 'enough'!  Smile

Mind you though, I don't have that much of a choice in terms of where and how I can shoot anyhow... sun is somewhat rare and hard to find up here, so when the light is 'just right' then the other question is where to go on the perimeter of YVR to get 'the shot'. Used to be the departures/arrivals site for the airport also showed what plane types were involved, but no longer.

So lets see what happens. Maybe one day one of my photos will even be accepted.  cheerful  Until then, I hope I'll be able to watch, share and learn. Tonight's goal, finding a good angle for the KLM evening arrival. Think I'll try the AVIS lot.


User currently offlineBoeingfreak From Germany, joined May 2005, 398 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5547 times:

Hello Thierry,

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 15):
Florian, I don't know the background of your story so I won't comment on it. All I can say is that all crewmembers do their "job" out of enthusiasm for the site and hence try to be helpful towards any contributor. That this goal is not always achieved is purely human.
A private mail to the involved person(s) very often solves the issue pretty quickly.

I know, Thierry, you do a great job, I remember your rejection guide (I also contributed with a rejection of mine)  Wink
Very helpful, especially for beginners.

However even your helpful rejection guide has been criticised by some members of the crew, I remember someone saying something like "We don't need it, we will do our own one..." An attitude like that sounds pretty arrogant to me.

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 15):
All this to say you and your pictures are more than welcome here!

Thanks for your nice words, Thierry.

What also worries me at A.net is, that over 30% of the screeners are members of one and the same commercial photo-agency, I sometimes have the feeling that absolute neutrality isn't given under these circumstances.


User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5513 times:

I've noticed the rate of post deletions have gone up, which is pretty annoying. Then like some of you've already mentioned that fiendship factor seems to have declined also. There's also a higher number of other websites out there now where it seems easier to speak your mind and get images uploaded. Lots of reasons really but at the end of the day...who cares?!
Spencer.



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User currently offlineConoramoia From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 499 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5501 times:

I have had uploads on multiple other websites with the same photos i tried here....and i'm still waitnig for an upload!!
so if any screeners are felleing leanient.......(hint,hint)
but i have held back to commenting unless im absolutely sure because i feel less privilaged if you will!!!
sometimes i feel as if the screeners do it on purpose to avoiad my photos!


25 Whisperjet : Although or because I'm a new member in the screening team I can only say that it is nonsense to claim that somebody is avoiding your pictures on pur
26 Scottieprecord : Agreed. The free photography accounts changed the dynamics of the forum quite a bit. Way too many prescreen threads were started, which resulted in t
27 ZakHH : I can only speak for myself, but when I signed up here almost 4 years ago, I met a lot of friendly and like-minded people whom I loved to discuss with
28 Clickhappy : ZakHH - an excellent post! You have made some great points. We would love to see your photos here, what can we do to motivate you? Believe me when I s
29 Koryo : there also seems to be no apparent concern for stolen pictures, I started a thread on a few Simpson 737 photos that were stolen and posted on Flickr a
30 Ryangooner : I spose you hit the nail on the head with your freudian slip! Ryan
31 EZEIZA : honestly not a personal attack on yourself or any other crew member, and please don't take it that way but we have heard this so many times before th
32 Clickhappy : EZEIZA - I don't think any of the crew would take such criticism personally. What every member of the crew has in common with you is that we were all
33 JakTrax : You know folks, I'm glad I started this thread, 'cos it's brought quite a few regulars back out of the woodwork and reminds me of the sort of construc
34 Ptrjong : From two earlier threads, it was already clear that the megathreads are not working. The crew agreed to this, but nothing has been done so far. Of co
35 Samuel32 : Its probably never going to be the same as 3-4 years back. What we can do make it a better place though: - Restart Masterclass threads... their always
36 JakTrax : Having seen many responses citing this as one of the reasons this place is so quiet, I myself was thinking of highlighting it in my initial post but
37 TimdeGroot : We are very much open to removing the mega threads, after all this forum is here for you guys. We started them though because months ago the complaint
38 JakTrax : Glad to hear (by the sound of it) that the crew are getting cold feet about the mega-threads too. I was never bothered about the number of pre- and/or
39 EZEIZA : Could not agree more, and the same goes for so many other threads where people just post stuffd like "useless thread" maybe an official survey could
40 JakTrax : I think the community is now in a position to decide once and for all - bear in mind we've now had experience with both options (individual and collec
41 Ptrjong : By the way, I still think this forum is very useful. My trip to Malaga last month was greatly aided by tips from Karl here, and the gear I'm using wou
42 Beechcraft : Hi Peter and all, Great idea! But, there are many (possibly)great Ideas on our Wishlist waiting to become reality, but i think what we need first is
43 JakTrax : Hi Peter, The problem I see with this is it could get very time-consuming, not just for the crew but for regular contributors too. Besides, there's al
44 RonS : I have nothing to offer because most all my photos get rejected. But this is my only photo forum that I read on an every other day basis to learn more
45 Spencer : There is one other way of looking at this and that is this, if you want a good thread then start one! JakTrax, you seem to have kicked things off here
46 Hernan : I still visit every day but this no longer the forum that entertained me and tought me something about photography daily. It is not the place Johan ra
47 PUnmuth@VIE : From my point of view a few very simple reasons: 1.) To many people hanging around "marketing" themselfes. 2.) To many people talking stupid (or even
48 StealthZ : I'll tell you what has changed... There is a post in this thread and one in the Pre & Post screening thread from NIKV69 that I agree with almost in th
49 Spencer : Bring back Jeff M I say! Always good for a giggle and told it like it was! Spence.
50 CaliSam : I'm also fairly new so I will give my 2 cents on my first impressions on this forum and site (good and bad) -The first thing I noticed is how dead thi
51 JeffM : LOL... thanks.... I just can't get a post to stick...
52 NIKV69 : I think we agree a lot here. It's non-av that is a whole different issue. What I find ironic Peter is you were guilty of most of not all of them. Not
53 PUnmuth@VIE : It tells a lot about a person being the first one putting a name into a negative context and formulating it like all others would think the same despi
54 Eadster : Me too! And I'm only posting this because this is the first time I've actually decided to see what's happening on the forums for months, maybe even 6
55 JakTrax : For me this just made me want to improve more. Strict rules I find are an incentive. When I started a few years ago I wasn't an elite photog (in fact
56 Post contains links AKE0404AR : I got a few good ones for you: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ation_photography/read.main/153874 http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ation_
57 Post contains links TimdeGroot : Here is another classic thread http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...190&searchid=141447&s=k64#ID141447 Those were the days
58 Post contains links Silver1SWA : LOL this cracks me up. It's taken from the following thread... http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...tion_photography/read.main/3696/1/ Boy, I wish h
59 Acontador : I would like to know what happened with that picture of Gary wearing a kilt ... Come on Gary, don't be shy, show it again!
60 NIKV69 : Merely stating the obvious, no need to formulate anything for many have seen it and it's far from my own opinion. Many would just avoid the forum or
61 Spencer : I just read the "I'm against bombs" thread. IMO that was a thread that spiced things up a bit. Got locked. Go figure. Spence.
62 Codeshare : So now we're all going to post some old threads? Come on, the title speaks for itself. And already some posts disappeared from this thread. Here is on
63 ThierryD : I think you meant "objective", Stefan!? Good suggestion! Beware!!! Spence, what have you done!!!? Vasco, Tim, it surely was nice during these days bu
64 Stil : Hi. Great threads, but they will be closed or terrificly mutilated within about 10 replies nowadays. I'm not bashing the mods, the question is people
65 Whisperjet : Embarassing, of course objective Stefan
66 Spencer : His hibernation should be well up by now, come on!!! BRING BACK JEFF, ha ha ha! Spence.
67 NIKV69 : Just wait for the next "creative shot" that he doesn't like to get into the DB. He will be here.
68 Post contains links INNflight : http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...iation_photography/read.main/86462 I'm SURE a lot of people here remember that photo, even without the thumbnai
69 Stil : I thought it was going to be a cow becoming top of the day!!! Stil
70 AKE0404AR : Spotterboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted Fri Apr 18 2003 02:50:28 your local time (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago
71 Post contains links Javibi : Remember this one? http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ation_photography/read.main/195815 I STILL think reply number 5 by Phil is the best post eve
72 Post contains links and images Cathay111 : Wow, there have been some great retro-threads dragged up in this thread. Nice work. It's fair to say that this forum has seen some very entertaining p
73 Viv : The forum lives because people of many different interests come to it - no, we are not all the same in our interests. Some are primarily photographers
74 JakTrax : Another thing I've noticed (and I don't know if it means anything or if it's just my images) is that people don't seem to be adding images to user-cre
75 Beechcraft : Wow, you´re a lucky guy Actually i also realized what you described. The first page of the User created Photoalbum page shows Albums being updated 1
76 Ptrjong : That's because of the bugs I think. Often you can't open the large photos from the albums, which makes them rather pointless. Peter
77 Post contains links Beechcraft : Just discovered that some things didn´t change too much: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...id=850&searchid=861&s=johan#menu76
78 INNflight : Yeah, I actually invented the site, Johan hacked my server a couple of weeks after the launch Seriously, I am not sure when exactly but I think I joi
79 Chris78cpr : Ahhh Colin was a legend and such a nice bloke! His work on ATI is pretty tasty still!
80 NIKV69 : This is one of the best posts ever in this forum!
81 Apgphoto : You "old guys" thanks for bringing up those old threads, they really were the good old days Bring back the Travel List I say cheers Paul
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