Mnazarinia From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 122 posts, RR: 4 Posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3244 times:
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Hi all,
I just got this one rejected for being overexposed and contrast. I guess this was my third trail ans yet got rejected for the same reason. Can I ask someone to help me what I need to do to fix the problem please?
Chukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1935 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3221 times:
I don't see where it is overexposed, but the contrast is definitely low. The red on the tail is a bit washed out, no pure whites or black. The histogram shows that clearly at the both ends. Levels adjustment might help.
Chukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1935 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3211 times:
It is actually very easy to check whether the shot is overexposed, using the Shadow/Highlight function. Just move the Shadow slider to zero, and the Highlight slider over to 100. If there are overexposed areas, they will remain unchanged white. But even the brightest areas with any data in them will go dark.
Mnazarinia From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 122 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3204 times:
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Quoting Oly720man (Reply 6): Setting the black and white point gives this. Seems you have a strong colour cast, or was the weather like that on the day?
No the weather was like that. It was all smoky due to the recent bush fire!!
I will give it another go, thanks all.
Mehdi.
Codeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3160 times:
I 've had a few contrasts recenlty myself actually.
Contrast is a bit too low. The whites seem gray. You can also try moving the middle pointer (or what's it called) in the Levels to have a darker feel. At the same time it should fix the exposure. Other than that great photo !
Ks/codeshare
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Mnazarinia From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 122 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3100 times:
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Thanks all.
Tim, I really touched the levels and even curves. I guess the problem is with my original image. That day the sky was so smoky due to our recent bush fire and I guess because of the white body the contrast doesn't show as white as it should be.
I have attached the original untouched but just reduced size photo here as well:
Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 20 Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3072 times:
Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 11): yes hazy weather can definitely worsen the problem, those shots can often need a bigger kick
I know that it's often frowned upon, but Autocolor in PS will usually give a kick in the right direction. It will often exaggerate and even blow out highlights, but you can reduce the effects with the Fade function.
Peter
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Chukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1935 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3068 times:
Quoting Mnazarinia (Reply 10): I really touched the levels and even curves.
If you have a look at the histogram, you will see that on the both right and left hand side there is a flat area meaning no pixels for higher intensity whites and blacks. That accounts for the low contrast, and that's what every picture levels should really be checked for. If you move the sliders just past the flat areas, the image will already look better. That of course won't guarantee a perfect result, some further contrast adjustment might be needed. Then, as mentioned above, you could adjust brightness with the middle slider.
Chukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1935 posts, RR: 8 Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3058 times:
Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 13): Autocolor in PS will usually give a kick in the right direction.
Sometimes it will, and sometimes it will not, it is a bit of a 'hit' and 'miss'. But when it does, the effect may be a bit too much. In that case it pays to go to 'Edit' - 'Fade" and to play with the Auto Color intensity.
Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 20 Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3048 times:
Quoting Chukcha (Reply 15): But when it does, the effect may be a bit too much. In that case it pays to go to 'Edit' - 'Fade" and to play with the Auto Color intensity.
Didn't I say that?
Anyway it doesn't replace looking at the levels and curve, I just often use this as an easy step in the right direction.
Cheers
Peter
The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
Chukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1935 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3038 times:
Sorry, Peter, I'm doing lots of things here on the run, trying to multitask, which I definitely have the wrong gender for . Only caught the first half of your post . Anyway, some profound insights are worth repeating, aren't they :D ?
Dendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1605 posts, RR: 64 Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3012 times:
This trick works for setting the black point.
Open levels (Ctrl+L) I have not checked but I would expect a gap on the left side to be indicated by the weak black.
Press and hold down Alt as you move the left slider in. The image will go blank, white. Keep moving the slider in until the merest trace of anything shows and that will set the black point.
The same happens at the white point though highlight spots almost always immediately show when you press Alt and move the right slider.
I found that simply looking at the histogram gave virtually identical results to this method, but that comes with a lot of experience, this way is a shortcut to it - dead simple
Mick Bajcar
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