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Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (Lufthansi)  
User currently offlineLufthansi From Germany, joined May 2002, 454 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

Hello fellas!

I got myself a new pocket camera a few days ago. First I bought a Nikon Coolpix that annoyed me with noisy pictures. So I changed it to get a Casio Exilim. This Casio has 10 Mega pixels what should offer enough capacity to work with the photos taken. For some reason all edited pictures seemed o be soft. So at the following link you can see an original file that has not been altered in any way. I worked on other files like this with Neatimage, paint.net and gimp before uploading them. All of them (2) got rejected. Why are these images still soft? My camera even has a anti shake device in it. Next to that I used a tripod, stopped the car's engine for less vibrations and used the self shutter. I really don't get it. What do you think? Can a pocket camera be that bad?

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/CIMG0337.jpg

Cheers and keep up the great work!

Stephan


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User currently offlineOthic From Sweden, joined Jun 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2200 times:

size it down to 1100x733 pixels and give it some USM


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User currently offlineLufthansi From Germany, joined May 2002, 454 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2184 times:

Ok I did what you said. Is that what you meant?

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/CIMG0337-1.jpg

And by the way here you see the two rejected shots taken with the same camera:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...37055504.2508cimg0321_filtered.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...big/20090318_y1237055684.33081.jpg

[Edited 2009-03-19 13:59:22]


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User currently offlineAlberto Riva From United States of America, joined May 2002, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

Stefan, I edited your original a bit in CS3 -- levels, contrast, color balance, resize and smart sharpen. I still don't think it's up to the needed quality. The sky was a bit too overcast and murky. Wait for a sunny day and that compact digicam will turn out better results!

Here is the edited version:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/MXPATL/CIMG0337.jpg


User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1731 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day ago) and read 2115 times:
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Looks to lack quality,quite soft on tail,around cockpit and Egypt air titles,also looks abit fuzzy.

User currently offlineLufthansi From Germany, joined May 2002, 454 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

So I got myself a new "good-weather-camera". Ah that's sad. Do your big SLRs have the same problems?

I'm going to sell my Canon D30 on ebay. Would you sell it together with the 300mm lens or not? Maybe I'm bying a new Canon one day that could be used with the lens...



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User currently offlineAlberto Riva From United States of America, joined May 2002, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

Sadly, even big SLRs can't change the weather. A grey ugly sky is a grey ugly sky -- bit of a problem in Northern Europe where you are, Stefan...  Smile

I would keep the 30D and put a serious lens on it, like an f2.8 Canon zoom or the 100-400 IS. There's no compact camera in the world that can match the speed and flexibility of a SLR, even a 3mp one from 2000. I like your photos here on a.net -- the 340 under the noise abatement structure and the 737 tail from above are very interesting images. You've got the eye... you just need a lens good enough to match it!
A.


User currently offlineLufthansi From Germany, joined May 2002, 454 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

Thanks for your warm words! I really appreciate them! If you like feel free to watch my "list of rejections" on myaviation.net:

http://myaviation.net/search/search.php?uid=17714

http://myaviation.net/search/search.php?uid=11611

http://myaviation.net/search/search.php?uid=2431

So you mean a "white lens" could fix some of my problems except the bad weather that we have 366 days a year  

As I am only one of those many newbies on a.net I should try to get a used one. In my eyes it doesn't make sense to buy a new some 600,-€ expensive lens just to say "I'm the new Sam Chui". That wouldn't work. How much money would you spent on a new lens together with at least two new batteries and one of these battery-grips that can be installed on the lower side of the camera holding two batteries?

As you said the gear is from 2000. Does it really make sense to buy new equipment for that camera? 3mp don't offer much space for editing, right?

I don't want to invest all of my money in a new camera. I just want to make nice pictures and share them successfully. It's painfully to have full ramp access as an Lufthansa mechanic when you only get bad shots. Many other spotters would create real "wonder-images" if they were able to access the ramp. They've proofen that they can even from the outside behind the fence...

[Edited 2009-03-20 07:18:59]


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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 65
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 2067 times:
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Hi Stephan

Expensive equipment really isnt necessary. Personally I think you would do well with the 30d and a consumer lens, especially since your pictures are mainly shot from close range. While the D30 is old you should certainly be able to get a.net quality shots out of them.

As for the weather, no you cant change it, but unless it brings something to the shot just forget about shooting in cloudy conditions. That Egyptair 737 would have been 10 times better if there had been some nice light on it

Tim



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User currently offlineLufthansi From Germany, joined May 2002, 454 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

Hi Tim!

Please note that I don't have a 30d but a D30. That's a big difference I think. But I want to thank you for your comment too! It's great to have such an active screener in the forum.

@Alberto:

Isn't my SIGMA 70-300mm 1:4-5.6 APO DG a serious lens? Sad



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User currently offlineAlberto Riva From United States of America, joined May 2002, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 2052 times:



Quoting Lufthansi (Reply 9):
@Alberto:

Isn't my SIGMA 70-300mm 1:4-5.6 APO DG a serious lens?

It can turn out pretty decent results under sunny skies and stopped down to f/8 (one name that comes to mind is Chris De Stefani, who uploads here and has some good shots taken with it) but it can't match the quality of a Canon lens or of a 300mm prime. You'll see the difference.

That said, you can take A.net quality pictures with any Sigma, but you gotta wait for the sun  Smile

Happy shooting on the ramp!
A.


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 65
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 2041 times:
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Yes the 3MP camera, I know, just messed up the name Smile Still think it's a good camera capable of a.net results, if you dont push the limits too much, e.g. dont crop much, dont shoot high ISO's etc.

I think chris sheldon used one, look for some of his early pics to see what it was capable of

Tim



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User currently offlineLufthansi From Germany, joined May 2002, 454 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

Hi Tim, hi Alberto!

Thanks for dropping me your lines! I just had a look at ebay for a battery grip. Let's see wether my offer is high enough to purchase it. If I get it, it comes along with two batteries. The same guy also offers an EOS 10D. I'm really looking forward to the endprice of this 6mp camera.

It's also great you named two photographers who worked with this equipment. I'm interested in that!

Thank's for your nice answers!

Stephan



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User currently offlineLufthansi From Germany, joined May 2002, 454 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

Before this thread gets to old I would like to ask for a feedback on the follwing pictures taken during my summer vacations 2008 in Sweden:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/CIMG5784.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/CIMG5782.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/CIMG5780.jpg

I personally would prefer No 3 as an upload to the queue.



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User currently offlineLufthansi From Germany, joined May 2002, 454 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

And before going to bed I want to show you an edit of an usual ramp shot. First you see the original one and second my edit. I reduced noise with neatimage. After that I re-sized the image in paint.net. And last I worked on the colors and contrast in gimp. I hope I'm on the right way.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/CIMG0357.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/lufthansi/CIMG0357_filtered.jpg

Cheers and goodnight!

Stephan



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