Irish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 4 Posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6395 times:
I have been contacted by a publishing house in Ireland seeking to use three of my photos for a non-fiction book entitled "Crash Landing". They say that the estimated initial print run will be 2,000 and that they would need UK and Irish rights. I haven't heard of the author (Chris Brown) so I'm going to ask for more information on him and the proposed book. This is clearly a commercial project so I feel I should charge, but at the same time it is probably not going to be a "bestseller"! Can anyone suggest what might be a reasonable but not exorbitant rate to seek?
JakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6382 times:
I have twice in the past been asked about images for use in books - the first requesting a not-so-big image and the second requesting the largest I could offer. In both cases I enquired about how profitable these publications would prove, and in both cases I came to the conclusion of 'not very'. I asked about some sort of compensation and the authors/publishers said that the best they could offer was a complimentary copy of the final product, which I found fair enough.
To be honest I'm still waiting for copies of the books, although in the second case the request was made only a few months ago, so the final product may be some time off. If I hear nothing from either (the first request I'm unlikely to as it was close on two years ago) I shan't be supplying my images to such a cause ever again. Promising to offer a compensation then not doing so is in my opinion extremely rude - perhaps more insulting than someone simply pinching the image off the site!
Irish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6375 times:
Thanks, Karl - I should have said that they are offering to pay but are inviting me to say what I'd charge. That would suggest they are prepared to go further than just giving a complimentary copy of the book. They are a long-established publishing house too.
It's just what I feel is reasonable based on a few similar and not-so-similar sales. It would be nice to see what others think, but unfortunately few seem to feel like posting. I don't see why. With 1,5 million photos in the database, you're unlikely to compete directly against each other.
The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
I once sold a picture to an advertising agency. They had seen a shot of mine (inside cargo area of a C-130) on here, but they asked me if I had a similar shot - taken from inside - with the ramp in open position. They wanted such a shot, which they afterwards could photo-shop and use with their product. They offered me 500 Euro, after I told them I did not have it ready, but with some luck, I could make such a shot in the near future while visiting airshows.
So, the first opportunity that came up was an open day at Cologne/Bonn, where there was a C-160D available (but it took me some hours of waiting to get a clear shot of the open ramp).
The advertising agency paid me timely and correctly after they received my invoice. I also received a copy of the end result (brochure).
Quoting Irish251 (Thread starter): Can anyone suggest what might be a reasonable but not exorbitant rate to seek?
I would ask at least 500 Euro and wait for their reaction. Good luck!
I accepted 300 euros from a publisher for a photo that went on the cover of a cofee table size book with a similar print run of 2000. Any higher and I think you are pushing your luck. It all depends on how good the photo is and how rare it is. The publisher should know how much to charge. Have they not offered you a price?