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User currently offlineScreeners From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 15 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4014 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Hi All

To improve our screening process and the feedback you receive we have decided to start working with abbreviations in personal comments. This will allow us to send far more personal messages than before.

For you this means you will need to be aware of the meaning of the abbreviations. For now we have decided to start using 3 very common ones. Hopefully in the near future we can expand this to encompass many more personals, and all abbreviations should be in our upload guide.

For now though

CW - Clockwise rotation needed

CCW - CounterClockwise rotation needed

HH- Heathaze/jetwash

If you know any members who do not frequent the forum please let them know.

Hope this helps

The A.net Screening Team

[Edited 2009-04-02 09:45:14]

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User currently onlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3979 times:

Sounds like a good idea. The first two are pretty self-explanatory I think.

Karl


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3959 times:

It might be an idea to list these abbreviations here:
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/reasons.php
Personal is currently not explained here at all, which raises a standard question here in the forum every week or so  Wink

Peter Smile



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3954 times:



Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 2):
It might be an idea to list these abbreviations here:

Also could be included in the e-mail, or will this few extra bites generate too much traffic when used in thousands of mails?

georg


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4003 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

I think this is a good idea. Got one of those personals myself today  Smile

User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3853 times:



Quoting Screeners (Thread starter):
For now we have decided to start using 3 very common ones.

Start? I have received these abbreviations in my rejection email for quite some time.



Slower traffic, keep right
User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1299 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3776 times:



Quoting Screeners (Thread starter):
Hope this helps

Sure does!

PS: A frequently asked question for "contrast"-rejection is "is there not enough contrast or is there too much contrast" (eg C+ or C- could help out  Smile ... and reduce the number of posts).

Best regards,

Walter



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4820 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3746 times:
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Hey, the screeners remembered their password!  Wink

Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 6):
PS: A frequently asked question for "contrast"-rejection is "is there not enough contrast or is there too much contrast" (eg C+ or C- could help out ... and reduce the number of posts).

Yes! Excellent idea.



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User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1980 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3705 times:
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Great idea. It is definitely better to receive abbreviated messages than no messages at all.

Another rejection that is often quite obscure is 'motive'. Some photos are rejected for 'motive' for an awkward crop and therefore salvageable. How about maybe using a single word 'CROP'?

Some messages could also be suggested for 'editing', like 'HALO', etc.

Cheers,
Andrei

[Edited 2009-04-02 17:20:29]

User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3526 times:



Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 6):
PS: A frequently asked question for "contrast"-rejection is "is there not enough contrast or is there too much contrast" (eg C+ or C- could help out Smile ... and reduce the number of posts).

Exactly right. Good idea.

Perhaps even C++ (for lots more contrast needed) or C+ for a little bit more contrast, etc.


User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3442 times:

Splendid.

BTW: C is for Cookie  Wink

KS/codeshare



How much A is there is Airliners Net ? 0 or nothing ?
User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3438 times:



Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 6):
(eg C+ or C- could help out

Would that mean the images has too much contrast or needs more contrast?  Wink



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1980 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3010 times:
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Quoting Screeners (Thread starter):
To improve our screening process and the feedback you receive we have decided to start working with abbreviations in personal comments.

Just curious - has anyone received these abbreviated messages? Seemed like a good idea; pity if it didn't take off.

Cheers,
Andrei


User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1747 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2995 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

I received a message today in a rejection"aircraft to high in frame",Good explanation really as I found it easy to identify the problem.

User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4003 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2993 times:

In line of the comments;

I got one (for category) a few days ago, but with an acceptance! I don't know who the screener in question was, but just wanted to let you know that that action was much appreciated  Smile


User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1980 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2946 times:
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I've received plenty or rejections with and without personal messages; here, I'm just wondering whether the abbreviated messages are going to become common (and consistent) practice, or it was just a good but un-workable idea.

Cheers,
Andrei


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9636 posts, RR: 68
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2902 times:
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PHOTO SCREENER

I don't know that all screeners are using abbreviated messages.

I prefer to type mine out, I think a few others feel the same way.


User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2864 times:



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 16):
I don't know that all screeners are using abbreviated messages.

Agree with you there i prefer the human touch even to rejected messages  Smile
Cheers



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2856 times:
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Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 17):
Agree with you there i prefer the human touch even to rejected messages

Agreed. It's amazing what even a few words can do to change the tone and put a positive spin on a rejection.

Once or twice, after receiving a rejection with no remark at all, I've gotten frustrated with dealing with the photo and have given up in exasperation.

But with a remark along the lines of "Nice shot, but it's a bit too _______", I feel a lot more motivated to go that extra mile, make some changes, and have another go at it.

2H4



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User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1980 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2796 times:
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Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 17):

Agree with you there i prefer the human touch even to rejected messages

Guys, you missing my point. I much prefer the non-abbreviated messages myself. Unfortunately though, I rarely get them.

What I'm talking about is that abbreviated messages are better than no messages at all; it is abbreviated ones versus "no messages'. If a screener feels like typing out - great, I guess nobody could keep him from that.

But if the screener feels like he is pressed for time and ordinarily would write nothing at all, typing a widely understood abbreviation would only take a split second, but the photographer would still get his vital piece of information.

Cheers,
Andrei


User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2728 times:



Quoting Screeners (Thread starter):
CW - Clockwise rotation needed

CCW - CounterClockwise rotation needed

HH- Heathaze/jetwash

Why not make them rejection reasons? Rather than have general "angle" simply have two: CCW and CW?


User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

I agree here, that makes things a lot more simple.

KS/codeshare



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User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1980 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2609 times:
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Quoting Danny (Reply 20):
Why not make them rejection reasons?

Good idea, but I don't think they are quite ready yet to make any major changes before most bugs are fixed. In the meantime, abbreviations could be a nice compromise.

Andrei


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