Brianw999 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 310 posts, RR: 6 Posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3192 times:
I went over to Heathrow yesterday where they were landing on 09L and most spotters/photographers were at the field containing the approach lights. I was a little disturbed to note a police officer seemingly telling car driving spotters to leave.
However...he was actually being VERY lenient. The problem was with those drivers who insist on parking their cars and blocking the footpath while doing so. The officer wanted them to move their cars further onto the verge and leave the footpath clear. This was as a result of recent complaints from local people who had experienced problems using the footpath, especially mothers with baby buggies who were having to step into the main dual carriageway road. OK, I know there's not many of them but they aren't breaking the law !
The officer was being very polite about all this but one or two grumpy spotters didn't help by having a moan. I had a word with the officer who stated that they had to enforce the law to allow lawful public access. He was happy for drivers to park on the verge provided they left the footpath clear.
That was lenient because he could have ticketed EVERY driver there regardless of whether or not they were leaving room on the path. It is a simple fact that in order to park on the verge by driving on the footpath you commit an offence punishable ( I think ) by a minimum £30 fine and 3 points on your licence. The officer went on to say that he and his colleagues were keen to allow us to continue the pursuit of our hobby but at the same time were required to uphold the law. He intimated that it could only take a few more complaints to get the area closed completely to all vehicles.
SOOOOO.....if you drive to the 09L approach at Heathrow and park on the verge PLEASE leave the footpath clear. Be warned, the officer I spoke to was reasonable, others may not be.
Alasdair1982 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2008, 464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3146 times:
To the moaners if you read this, be bloody grateful you weren't moved on and accused of being a potential terrorist with one of those new fangled cameras that can magically fire bullets. Your moaning could have had far more damaging consequences for the hobby in the Heathrow vicinity
Trackcharlie From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 76 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3114 times:
I usually park just off the roundabout in Longford. There's normally plenty of spaces and it is only a short walk to that field. OK, you have to pop some pennies in the meter, but compared to my DSLR and Lenses that get me to this point - it's a drop in the ocean! And you don't get any hassle.
Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11791 posts, RR: 48 Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3014 times:
I was there Sunday morning and there are challenges.
On Sunday, given the weather was good, that area was very busy and you couldn't have got another car parked there. Now, while it is possible to park completely off the path in some places, in others there's a steep bank of about 4-5 feet immediately next to the path. This inevitably means that some drivers will block the path.
Far worse than this, I have seen idiots who actually park their car on the road or half-and-half. This has caused numerous "near misses" and I wouldn't be surprised if a serious accident hasn't already happened.
Does anyone know the position with respect to entry to the field at the bottom of the bank? I always stand up by the road, but there's always a group of spotters in the field (lots of them on Sunday). They're only there because the fence is down. Are they actually allowed to be in there?
Quoting Brianw999 (Thread starter): This was as a result of recent complaints from local people who had experienced problems using the footpath, especially mothers with baby buggies who were having to step into the main dual carriageway road.
Whilst you can't argue against this in principle, in practice, the only people I've ever seen along that path are spotters. There's nowhere to walk to along there that anyone from Longford would be interested in, especially mothers with baby-buggies.
Quoting Trackcharlie (Reply 4): I usually park just off the roundabout in Longford. There's normally plenty of spaces and it is only a short walk to that field. OK, you have to pop some pennies in the meter, but compared to my DSLR and Lenses that get me to this point - it's a drop in the ocean! And you don't get any hassle.
I would agree generally. However, I have been moaned at by residents for having the temerity to park there (having paid!) I'm not convinced there are enough designated bays there to support the numbers I saw on Sunday. The other issue, or certainly the last time I parked there, is that you're limited to a 2-hour stay.
Flyingfox27 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 423 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3000 times:
Best bet is to walk on foot, its not bad catching the Tube or HE to T5 and walking for 10 to 20 minutes, 30 minutes if going to the Esso Garage.
Iam not allowed to drive for medical reasons so just try and walk to these places, good excersize too but i would understand if spotters have to take a lot of equipment for their needs and if they dont really want to go via train..... i know its dodgy carrying expensive equipment on the Tube but i have been ok so far fingers crossed!
Always be nice to the police or BAA personnell, i find chatting to them a lot makes them want to leave lol!!!