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Spotting With A Compact Camera (many Pics)  
User currently offlineAirCatalonia From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 550 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5374 times:

I am not a spotter (I don't have the equipment, unfortunately) but today I decided to head down to BCN to check out the spotter locations around the airport and to see what I could get with my compact CANON IXUS 85 IS.

I think the camera is quite good and I've seen I can get some decent photos, unfortunately at high speeds 1/1500 and high ISOs (1600), the pictures become all blurry. I don't know if this is a limitation of the cam itself or if I am doing something wrong (most likely).

This is what I saw today at the airport:

The park near the threshold of 25R. A great place to "relax" as you can see.




A 747. I don't know the airline. Perhaps someone can help. All blurry as I said:



Jet2:



At this point a Transavia went around and the A320 behind switched to 25L about halfway into the approach. I guess something happened on the runway. Here the Transavia going around:



Dassault Falcon 900EX:



Air Nostrum CRJ-200ER:



Air Europa Boeing 737-85P:



Vueling Airbus A320-214:



Another Air Nostrum CRJ-200ER:



Air France Airbus A320-211:



Alitalia Airbus A319-112:



TAP Airbus A320-214:



KLM 737-800?



Swiss A320



Alitalia A321:



Portugalia - CRJXX? - help needed:



Various:



Lufthansa A321:



Some Plane:



easyJet A319:



Iberia A319:



Iberia A319:



Clickair A320:



Brussels 737-400?



And that's it!

I also saw a PIA plane (A310 I think) I didn't know PIA flew to BCN. Perhaps it was a charter or a diversion.

Regards,
airCatalonia

Comments welcome  Smile

[Edited 2009-04-23 16:30:04]

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User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2323 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5353 times:



Quoting AirCatalonia (Thread starter):
and high ISOs (1600),

there is no reason this camera should be set at 1600 ISO for this type of photography.



Slower traffic, keep right
User currently offlineAirCatalonia From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5349 times:



Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 1):
there is no reason this camera should be set at 1600 ISO for this type of photography.

Ok, I think I'll try lower ISOs next time.

The thing is that this camera chooses the shutter speed automatically and I was afraid that if I set a lower ISO I wouldn't be able to "stop" the plane in the air. But probably 400 ISO and speed 1/400 or something like that should still work.


User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5340 times:

Read the manual - all the information is in there. There's absolutely no reason you shouldn't be able to get A.net-quality images with what you're using.

Even ISO400 is excessive in the conditions under which you've shot - the sun's out, the sky's blue, perfect! Try ISO100 or 200 for best results, and aim for a shutter speed of around 1/400 for fast-moving objects (such as arriving aircraft). Remember too to take advantage of the sun's position, by having it at your back - this will help increase shutter speed. I've seen mnay lovely shots from BCN so I'm sure the places exist.

Finally, try altering the camera to aperture priority and aim for a shutter to match - shooting in full-auto and/or P mode rarely produces decent results.

P.S. The 'blur' you're encountering is actually excessive noise due to the unnecessarily high ISO.

Karl


User currently offlineKlemmi85 From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5316 times:



Quoting AirCatalonia (Thread starter):
and high ISOs (1600),

Avoid high ISOs on these compact cameras if possible. The noise produced by there tiny little sensors is excessive otherwise. Those cams turn out best from 100 to 400 ISO max. If possible, never go above even if the manufactur claims "goes up to ISO 3200" or whatever.

Most of these compact cameras have a maximum native ISO capability of 400 or 800 and everything that goes beyond is pushed by the internal software, causing only more and more noise.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5309 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

I have been shooting with a point and shoot lately, a Canon G10.

I love it! It is quite the challenge to shoot a moving subject with the slow auto focus of a point and shoot Big grin


User currently offlineFly747 From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5245 times:



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 5):
I have been shooting with a point and shoot lately, a Canon G10.

Royal shooting with a Canon? What gives?

Ivan



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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5229 times:



Quoting Fly747 (Reply 6):
Royal shooting with a Canon? What gives?

Nikon do not make a compact as good as the Canon G10.



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5194 times:



Quoting JakTrax (Reply 3):
Even ISO400 is excessive in the conditions under which you've shot - the sun's out, the sky's blue, perfect! Try ISO100 or 200 for best results

Indeed I'd go further ... with a compact camera you should stick to ISO100 if at all possible. You should still get fast enough shutter speeds.



Make the most of the available light ... a lesson of photography that applies to life
User currently offlineMclaudio From Portugal, joined Jan 2005, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5188 times:



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 5):
I have been shooting with a point and shoot lately, a Canon G10

Hi there. Can you share some examples with us? (aviation related of course).
Sometimes if you can get really close to the subject, a point and shoot can do wonders and the tech details of that camera seem interesting.



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User currently offlineHernan From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

I Just recently bought a DSLR, the same pictures I have on the DBs and other sites I have contributed to for the past three years have been taken with various P&S from Konica Minolta to various canons, IMHO the best P&S, and you can see them all at www.pbase.com/heez10/
Hernan


User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

Your 747 is Jade Cargo by the way.....

Karl


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5035 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER



Quoting Mclaudio (Reply 9):
Can you share some examples with us? (aviation related of course).

Here are a couple:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Royal S King
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Royal S King



I am still learning the camera. These were shot at ISO80. I am shooting in super fine JPEG, I don't have the time to learn and support another raw format.

I am currently shooting in the "neutral" color mode - the look is toned down a little over regular (vivid is for asshats like Ken Rockwell).


User currently offlineDanielfigfoz From Portugal, joined Apr 2009, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4985 times:

Nics pictures! The green one may be a Aer Lingus.

User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

Just to clarify, the KLM is indeed a 737-800, the Portugalia is an ERJ-145 (not a CRJ) and the green 747 is definately NOT Aer Lingus - unless I'm missing something.....

Karl


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