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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2505 times:
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Hello everybody,

I just got this picture rejected for "contrast" and "common".

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20090526_b1242734454.0646d-abvy_u.jpg

Common, sure, a B744 in FRA is pretty common Big grin

The contrast. Can anybody help me here? How can I improve the problem with contrast. It was about 10:45am when I took this picture, the sun was coming from the front left. It was not 100% clear on that day, slightly hazey... It was taken through the cockpit window with Canon D40, ISO200, 1/640s, f9, Canon 24-105mm lense.

Any help?

Thanks.

wilco737


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User currently offlineDazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2903 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

The lighting is a little flat, difficult conditions to shoot in really with the sun at that angle. It needs the contrast increasing as the whites currently look more grey. There's not much you can do about common though!

Happy flying,

Darren



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2496 times:
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Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 1):
The lighting is a little flat, difficult conditions to shoot in really with the sun at that angle. It needs the contrast increasing as the whites currently look more grey.

So I need to pimp the contrast a little more then? I am usually using the Curves tool. Would it be easier with the levels tool here?

Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 1):
There's not much you can do about common though!

True, but I thought if the quality is good enough, then it still can get accpted, no?

wilco737



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2492 times:
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I tried a new edit:

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 459kb


Is that any better?

thanks.

wilco737



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User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2488 times:
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Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 3):
Is that any better?

Definitely. As mentioned, lighting conditions were pretty tough, so don't know if it's good enough, but definitely better to me, contrast-wise.

I'd also pull back the blue and cyan a little bit also.

Dana


User currently offlineSpiderguy252 From India, joined Feb 2009, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Hi,

If an image is common, is it's significance equal to a motive rejection? ie: You can't do anything about it, can you?



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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2599 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2488 times:
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No, a common rejection always comes with another rejection reason. In other words, if you fix the contrast the common goes away too.

User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2486 times:
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Quoting Dlowwa (Reply 4):
Definitely. As mentioned, lighting conditions were pretty tough, so don't know if it's good enough, but definitely better to me, contrast-wise.

light wasn't the best, indeed. But I liked the angle of the B744.

Quoting Dlowwa (Reply 4):
I'd also pull back the blue and cyan a little bit also.

Ok, will do that and see how it looks like.

Thanks a lot for the feedback.

wilco737



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2474 times:
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Hi Phil,

as you may know the common rejection only means that for the given aircraft the acceptance standards are higher, so your shot needs to be much better quality-wise than for a non-common aircraft.

I also think that the contrast on the second edit is better but watch out for blown out areas on the top of the fuselage; reducing the lighting might help with that.

Good luck!

Thierry



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2453 times:
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Quoting ThierryD (Reply 8):
as you may know the common rejection only means that for the given aircraft the acceptance standards are higher, so your shot needs to be much better quality-wise than for a non-common aircraft.

Alright, that's how I thought it is as well.

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 8):
I also think that the contrast on the second edit is better but watch out for blown out areas on the top of the fuselage; reducing the lighting might help with that.

I guess another one for my personal collection....

Thanks.

wilco737



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2362 times:
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Hi Guys,

I just browsed through my pictures and found this one:

Big version: Width: 683 Height: 1024 File size: 230kb
Wing view of the MD11F


It has been taken through the window over the wing of the MD11F.

I guess this is a nice view as you don't see window views during flight of a freighter too often. The problem is: I couldn't step further to the back as there were cargo parked there  Smile
And there are no other windows I could've walked to, to get a different angle. So this was the best I could do.
Does it stand any chance or not? I doubt it...

wilco737



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User currently offlineConoramoia From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 499 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

to be honest i quite like it!i wont comment on quality since im terrible at editing and im also on a laptop....but the engine is very close to being cut-off at the front,

regards

conor

p.s i really like the fact that its a feighter!


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6414 posts, RR: 38
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2335 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 10):

Not entirely sure that they'll like the frame of the window...



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User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2332 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 10):
Does it stand any chance or not?

I like it. As far as motive, I don't know how the screeners will react. I think the level is a bit off though.



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2327 times:
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Thanks for the feedback guys,

Quoting Conoramoia (Reply 11):
but the engine is very close to being cut-off at the front,

I saw that once I was back in my seat and thought: damn, but it is the best picture I could take.

Quoting Conoramoia (Reply 11):
p.s i really like the fact that its a feighter!

me too, but that is not enough to get it accepted Big grin

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 12):
Not entirely sure that they'll like the frame of the window...

That is one of my biggest concerns. But I cannot crop it tighter to get rid of the frame. I couldn't chose a different angle as this is the only window near the wing... So no other options than this window.

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 13):
I think the level is a bit off though.

It is not the final edit, it was just a quick one to make it ready for this thread and see if it is worth it to put more effort in it.

I guess I will not upload it then. Seem to be quality problems and of course the motiv.

Thanks anyway.

wilco737



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6414 posts, RR: 38
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2320 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 14):
I couldn't chose a different angle as this is the only window near the wing...

It looks like you could have stuck the camera onto the window and got a shot of the engine  Wink

But other than the engine, the clouds aren't that spectacular etc.. Maybe if there were some nice CBs floating around and maybe some paddocks below, it would be a different picture. Oh well.. Nice to have as a desktop wallpaper though!



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2305 times:
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Quoting NZ107 (Reply 15):

But other than the engine, the clouds aren't that spectacular etc.. Maybe if there were some nice CBs floating around and maybe some paddocks below, it would be a different picture. Oh well.. Nice to have as a desktop wallpaper though!

I totally agree. The clouds are rather boring. Problem is: I cannot get back there on every flight. It is not that I spend the whole time back there Big grin Only for 2 minutes, taking the shot (don't forget to take Oxygen with you) and then back into my seat...

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 15):
It looks like you could have stuck the camera onto the window and got a shot of the engine Wink

Nope, wasn't that close. But between the pallets and the wall is only about 50cm of space. So not a lot to make a lot of movements and sitting down or something  Smile

wilco737



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6414 posts, RR: 38
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2259 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 16):

Indeed. I've never been on a Freighter, just like many others.. Maybe before you go next, upgrade your DSLR to one with live view  Wink



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2257 times:
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Quoting NZ107 (Reply 17):
Maybe before you go next, upgrade your DSLR to one with live view Wink

Good plan. I will spend a couple of hundred Euros just to take a picture of the wing of the MD11F during flight  Wink

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2111 times:
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The 744 got rejected for colour now. I don't really see it. I guess I need glasses.

Thanks again for the feeback guys. Another one for my personal collection  Smile

wilco737



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