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User currently offlineMiniflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 22 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5133 times:

Hi,

Due to fly to paris in a few weeks with flybe on Dash 8 Q400. I am going to try and get into the cockpit before or after the flight so i can take an in cockpit picture. Anyone got any advice, tips on In cockpit shooting and also how to get into the cockpit (they might say no)

Thanks,

Tristan M

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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4533 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5127 times:



Quoting Miniflyer (Thread starter):
tips on In cockpit shooting

Pretty basically, whip out that external flash, meter on the outside, dail those into Manual and shoot away!

Quoting Miniflyer (Thread starter):
also how to get into the cockpit (they might say no)

The only way is to ask... You've got a no if you don't ask, you can only get a more positive answer.


For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and ther
User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2358 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5089 times:
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I wouldn't worry about a cockpit shot until you land. Wait for most of the pax to deplane and then ask the Captain. Like they have said, all they can say is yes or no. Chances are good though, you will get a shot at getting a flightdeck shot. Be quick about it and thank them for their time regardless.

Keep in mind, they have another flight to prepare for and they are busy folks.


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User currently offlineJeffSFO From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 809 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5087 times:

I've only done it once but they couldn't have been nicer about it. I just told them I was a photographer and asked if I could get a cockpit shot. As the others have said, all you have to do is ask:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/3520366819_49acfd7242_b.jpg


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User currently offlineMiniflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5051 times:

Thanks guys for the advice and i will ask! Any advice of lenses? I have an 18-35mm NIKKOR Lens. Would this do the job?

User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 7997 posts, RR: 84
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5050 times:
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Quoting Miniflyer (Reply 4):
I have an 18-35mm NIKKOR Lens. Would this do the job?

I don't know about the lense itself, but 18mm could be a little too much. I use a 10-22mm from Canon for my cockpitshots.


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The first is at 16mm and the 2nd at full 10mm.

wilco737


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User currently offlineSAA738 From South Africa, joined Mar 2009, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5035 times:

I've been in the jumpseat of a Boeing 737-400 and CRJ-200ER (for the whole flight) and taken images of the instruments and controls using my 18-55mm lens. I used macro mode for the closeups and auto mode for the ones taken at around 18mm. Try and also use flash.

As for getting into the cockpit just ask. Rather ask at the end of the flight as at the beginning the Pilots are usually busy and the rules are strict in England so I doubt you will be allowed in the cockpit for the whole flight.

Some examples :

Boeing 737-400 :
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r208/captain_daniel_25/IMG_2212.jpg

Boeing 737-400
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r208/captain_daniel_25/IMG_2260-1.jpg

CRJ-200ER
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r208/captain_daniel_25/Picture021-1.jpg

Hopefully I'll have some cockpit shots of A6-EYS next week  Smile !


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User currently offlineMiniflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

Thanks for the adice guys really helpful! Big grin

User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2358 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4965 times:
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18mm should be fine. It won't be the best at getting the ENTIRE cockpit, but you'll get all that matters. Or atleast you should.

Here is a shot from my collection of a Boeing 737-800 flightdeck at 18mm. This will give you some idea of what to expect.


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User currently offlineMiniflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4876 times:

I really want to get in the jumpseat to take some pics of when they are flying but i doubt they will let me do it? Any advice on 'trying' to get in the jumpseat... Flying with Flybe.

Thanks

Tris

User currently offlineJpc11 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4874 times:

Hi,

You may want to say that you are just taking pictures and tell them where you are going to upload them to Airliners.net and tell them a little about the site. You may have to show your ID. I can't wait to see them.


Good luck,


jacqueovo de la sewickley (jpc11)  yes   smile   airplane   camera 


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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2358 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4870 times:
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Quoting Miniflyer (Reply 9):
I really want to get in the jumpseat to take some pics of when they are flying but i doubt they will let me do it? Any advice on 'trying' to get in the jumpseat... Flying with Flybe.

Ahh, good luck on that one. I doubt you'll get to ride jumpseat unless you have some reason for being up there, i.e., taking pictures for a publication etc. Even then, it would all have to go through Flybe's Public Relation, or Media, departments and get approval on a number of levels. I doubt you'll get access to the sterile area of the aircraft after flight operations commence.


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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4533 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4847 times:



Quoting Jpc11 (Reply 10):
You may have to show your ID.

Are you serious? I've asked for many cockpit visits, both on the ground and in the air, and they have NEVER asked me for ID.... What are they going to do with it anyways? My ID has been checked already by security and it doesn't say if I'm a bad guy.


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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 7997 posts, RR: 84
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4845 times:
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Quoting JRadier (Reply 12):
My ID has been checked already by security and it doesn't say if I'm a bad guy.

That'll come in the future. Then the ID says: "Good guy" or "Bad guy"  laughing 

No seriously. I never had to show my ID as well, I mean before I became a pilot. Just ask, if you will be lucky is another question. Maybe you can take a quick glance after landing, but during flight chances are very low.

wilco737


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User currently offlineConoramoia From Italy, joined Oct 2007, 482 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4838 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 13):
No seriously. I never had to show my ID as well, I mean before I became a pilot. Just ask, if you will be lucky is another question. Maybe you can take a quick glance after landing, but during flight chances are very low.

Are you more likely to be allowed in on passenger flights with Lufthansa since you fly cargo?

Just wondering!

Regards,

Conor.

User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 7997 posts, RR: 84
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4837 times:
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Quoting Conoramoia (Reply 14):
Are you more likely to be allowed in on passenger flights with Lufthansa since you fly cargo?

On passenger flights you can ask the cockpit crew to take a quick look. On my cargo flights I never have passengers, only freight attendands or mechanics or loadmasters etc. And they have the permission by the fleet.
I need a reason as well to get into the cockpit. During flight: no way. On the ground I show my corporate ID and ask the Purser if I may say hello and then she asks the captain. in 99.9% they let me in. Jumpseating without a specific reason is even difficult for me. Just for the fun of it is a no no.

wilco737


It it's not Boeing, I am not going.
User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

If you are allowed to take a photograph, then don't forget to ask about permission to upload.

I recently had a cockpit visit before flight on a major US carrier, I even sat in the F/O's seat and got some nice pictures, but I didn't keep in mind to ask about uploading. So I decided not to upload them because I don't know whether the crew would be comfortable with that.

It was an amazing experience nonetheless  

[Edited 2009-06-09 10:24:29]

[Edited 2009-06-09 10:32:57]


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User currently offlineGhajdufi From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 166 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4800 times:

My ID says 'air traffic controller' and even with that I find it extremely difficult to get a jumpseat ride.
The best is to contact the company well before your flight and explain who you are and what you are trying to get. You might be lucky and get permission to fly in the cockpit.
The sad thing is that it had never been an issue before 9/11 Sad


HGabor
User currently offlineConoramoia From Italy, joined Oct 2007, 482 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4792 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 15):

Ok thanks!Just nice to know!
Helpful as always WILCO737,

Quoting Ghajdufi (Reply 17):
The sad thing is that it had never been an issue before 9/11

Such a pity now!

Regards,

Conor.

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