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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9263 posts, RR: 76
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2681 times:
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Hi guys,

have a question about double. I have a picture of D-ALCP in the database:


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Now I want to upload another shot of the MD11, this time the engine, but it is same airplane, same day. Is this double or is the motiv different enough?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...eady/h1245491548.548img_0542_u.jpg

Thanks.

wilco737
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User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2676 times:
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Has it moved or is it in the same spot? If it has not moved it's double.
Love the shot though, and think that there should be exceptions to the double rule.



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9263 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2674 times:
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Quoting JohnKrist (Reply 1):
Has it moved or is it in the same spot? If it has not moved it's double.

Same spot, same place, same everything, just a very different motiv. I know that pictures from one side and then the other side are allowed from the same day, so why not the nose and the engine? Is it really that double?

Quoting JohnKrist (Reply 1):
Love the shot though, and think that there should be exceptions to the double rule.

Thanks.

wilco737


User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2670 times:
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Mmm, reading that different sides might be OK, so maybe it would be OK. Try!  Smile


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User currently offlineJalap From Belgium, joined Oct 2007, 362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2662 times:



Quoting JohnKrist (Reply 3):
Mmm, reading that different sides might be OK, so maybe it would be OK. Try!

Well, this engine is on the other side of the plane than the nose shot so I would say that an exception to the double rule is not even needed here.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9263 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2661 times:
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Quoting Jalap (Reply 4):
Well, this engine is on the other side of the plane than the nose shot so I would say that an exception to the double rule is not even needed here.

I haven't seen it from that point of view.  thumbsup 

Quoting JohnKrist (Reply 3):
o maybe it would be OK. Try!  

It is in the queue  Smile

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User currently offlineDazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2954 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2649 times:

wilco737,

It's a totally different motive so double won't apply in my opinion. I would question the motive and lighting though, it's dark at the rear of the engine there's not much of the engine to look at. It's a great perspective and not often seen by us that don't have airside access and get this close to the moving parts, but maybe it would have been better taken from in front of the engine rather than the rear to get the fan blades and maybe the leading edge of the wing?

Darren



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9263 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2648 times:
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Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 6):
It's a totally different motive so double won't apply in my opinion

Thank you for your opinion. I had a picture rejected which showed a different motive as well, so this time I wanted to make sure.

Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 6):
I would question the motive and lighting though

I like the way looking at the engine. Usually it is from the front towards the rear where you can see the fanblades. I liked to show the whole engine with the exhaust instead of the fanblades.
So I did this intentionally Big grin

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User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2623 times:
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Hi Phill,

That would not be a double, as long as those are the only two you upload! However, I feel the overexposed background kills the shot for me. In this case, probably you should have chosen exposure such as to have the background correctly exposed, and then use fill flash to attack the shadows.
I am sure you will get more opportunities to try this kind of shot again, so why not wait and get it right?



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9263 posts, RR: 76
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2616 times:
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Quoting Acontador (Reply 8):
That would not be a double, as long as those are the only two you upload!

Hi Andrés,

thanks for making this clear, I wasn't sure.

Quoting Acontador (Reply 8):
In this case, probably you should have chosen exposure such as to have the background correctly exposed, and then use fill flash to attack the shadows.

Thanks for the advice. It will not get too easy as I recently more and more be questioned by security why I am taking pictures at the airport being airside. That's why I uploaded several shots with "unknown location" already. Same with this shot.
But I will keep on trying.

I will pull it from the queue.

Thanks.

wilco737


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