Stil From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 345 posts, RR: 7 Posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1950 times:
Hi.
I just had this picture rejected due bad level.
It's a 10mm shot, so the only reference lines on the lower right corner are completely unreliable. The original full frame picture shows some reliable small lines on the center of the image; and according to these, the picture is reasonably leveled.
Now these lines are cropped out, is there any way to level the picture?
Level, hmm, I guess they took the buildings at the bottom right as reference and they look unlevel. but to be honest, I wouldn't know how to edit it to make it level.
Stil From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 345 posts, RR: 7 Reply 6, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1906 times:
Thanks for your comments.
Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 4): I guess they took the buildings at the bottom right
I don't want to think so. Screeners are great photographers, and they know for sure one can´t rely on a vertical lines on the edge of a wide angle shoot. I think they rejected this image by means of a 'unlevel' feeling. Don't get me wrong, it's a valid rejection reason for me, but I completely fail to see how to level it.
Quoting RonS (Reply 5): Try posting a version with the buildings level
I didn't say it was a building, but there's some lines i used for leveling on the full frame version.
original image just resized
This is a resized copy of the original picture. The grass near the taxiway is on the center of the image, so I used this information for leveling. i only use horizontal lines on wide angles when theuy are on the center of theimage, as in this case.
And there's some taxiway lights on the center of the image which 'seems' to be vertical.
Crop of taxiway lights at original size
Well, these were the...
Quoting Stil (Thread starter): some reliable small lines on the center of the image
Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 2975 posts, RR: 60 Reply 7, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1900 times:
Hi.
I agree with Phil that it is a lovely photo. Unfortunately I believe you will have to edit it in a particular way to avoid the potential for that level rejection.
I have had a two minute play with your image, to have a look what it could look like - though I believe it could be improved further by using the original. This is what I came up with:
Stil's Image
For me this may work better for the screeners, and it is certainly worth another try.
If you would like any further help, or would like me to have a look at the original, please feel free to drop me a line.
WILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8533 posts, RR: 78 Reply 8, posted (3 years 12 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1872 times:
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Quoting Stil (Reply 6): I don't want to think so. Screeners are great photographers, and they know for sure one can´t rely on a vertical lines on the edge of a wide angle shoot. I think they rejected this image by means of a 'unlevel' feeling. Don't get me wrong, it's a valid rejection reason for me, but I completely fail to see how to level it.
I know what you mean. Looks like Paul (Psych) made a good edit which looks excellent to me.
Quoting Psych (Reply 7): I have had a two minute play with your image, to have a look what it could look like - though I believe it could be improved further by using the original. This is what I came up with:
Stil From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 345 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (3 years 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 1835 times:
Thanks, Paul.
I think you did a great edit
I tried to use the hangar vertical lines as a reference and the airdraft looks like it were heavily braking. I'll have to try a different leveling procedure.
Out of interest, and to help others in a similar situation, would anyone in the know care to clarify whether an edit such as mine above (which clearly could be seen in some quarters as 'manipulating' the original, in order to straighten those distortions due to the wide angle used) would be considered acceptable, or could result in an 'edit' rejection, or even worse!
Stil From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 345 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1703 times:
Hi Paul.
I think you rose an interesting question here. Thanks for bringing it up.
I have to admit I uploaded a different level edit because I wasn't confident about acceptability of the procedure you proposed here. Well, in fact my toughts were the edit was acceptable, but some small warning light somewhere into my brain made me change my mind.
I'm not sure if vignetting correcting procedures are allowed; but if they are, and having in mind that other editions such as HDR are completely forbidden and leads to banning, I'll ask a direct question...
Are lens distortion correction procedures -as the one Paul proposed- allowed on A.net?
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