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Photo Acceptance - Post Screening (Ekkaihla)  
User currently offlineEkkaihla From Finland, joined Jun 2005, 28 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2655 times:
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Hi,

Got this photo rejected for quality/compression. Could someone please give me some tips on how to improve it, or do you think it is a "lost case"? I uploaded the photo as close to the 1Mb limit as I could make it. Would uploading in smaller resolution help?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...47718031.8622-8930_img_6573_v2.jpg


ekkaihla
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User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2649 times:



Quoting Ekkaihla (Thread starter):
Would uploading in smaller resolution help?

Yes, it would definitely help. I took a look at a down-sized (1024) version, and it looked much better. Most of the flaws disappeared. You might still have some issues with sharpening (too much), but you should be able to fix them with an edit.

There are several reasons 1600pix should usually be avoided, one of them being it's much more difficult to hide any flaws, such as in your case.

Dana


User currently offlineEkkaihla From Finland, joined Jun 2005, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2644 times:
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Ok, thanks for your input, Dana. I'll try resizing it down to 1024 pixels wide (not from this edit, but from the original one). I'll post it on my pre-screening thread once I'm done and we can see if it has better chances then.


ekkaihla
User currently offlineEkkaihla From Finland, joined Jun 2005, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2591 times:
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Couldn't find my old pre-screening thread so I'll just post it here. Resized to 1024 wide. What do you guys think, would it be acceptable now?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...338.868622-8930_img_6573_small.jpg



ekkaihla
User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2589 times:



Quoting Ekkaihla (Reply 3):

Hmmm... it still seems to have the same compression/quality issues as before. I would check how you are downsizing or re-saving your work, as it seems you're losing quality somewhere. Even the down-sized version of the first one you posted looks better than the second one. I'd definitely check your workflow to see if you're doing something there.

Dana


User currently offlineEkkaihla From Finland, joined Jun 2005, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2581 times:
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Thanks again, Dana. I think you are correct, there is something I need to change in my editing process. I have been noticing that I'm missing consistency in my editing in general, and that probably causes the varying results I'm having when uploading here.

That smaller version was made from the original photo. First straightened a bit, then cropped. After that did some noise reduction (with NeatImage) and then adjusted the contrast a bit and resize. As a last step I applied some unsharp mask, but tried not to over do it. Saved it with the maximum quality that was possible.

The original photo, after cropping and noise reduction is here: http://wingnut.1g.fi/Pics/Anet/IMG_6573_filtered.jpg (taken with a Canon 300D with 18-55mm kit lens).



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User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2542 times:



Quoting Ekkaihla (Reply 5):

The original photo, after cropping and noise reduction is here:

I just tired a quick edit on that version, and was able to come up with a half-decent image. The original is a little soft, so you will need to be very selective in how you apply the sharpening, because some areas need it more than others, and if you were to apply it evenly and not selectively, that could certainly lead to the problems we were seeing earlier.

Were you selective, or did you just sharpen the whole thing? Let me know if you want me to try and get a better edit with a little more carefully selective sharpening.

Dana


User currently offlineEkkaihla From Finland, joined Jun 2005, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2496 times:
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Hi Dana, sorry for a bit late reply. I just resized and applied sharpening to the whole image afterwards, then used selective sharpening on some smaller details. I agree, the original photo is quite soft and not that easy to work from. I you could try to see what can be done with the photo, and give me a quick walk through through the phases, would be greatly appreciated. I think there are some lessons I could learn from.


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User currently offlineAstro777lover From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 212 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2476 times:



Quoting Ekkaihla (Reply 5):
The original photo, after cropping and noise reduction is here: http://wingnut.1g.fi/Pics/Anet/IMG_6573_filtered.jpg (taken with a Canon 300D with 18-55mm kit lens).

One thing i have read from forums and other things is that doing noise reduction also makes the photo soft. If they sky is the problem with the noise then do selective sharpening on the plane only and that will solve the problem

Austin



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