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Photoshop For Mac Or Aperture?  
User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1945 posts, RR: 9
Posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7879 times:

Hello

I have a MacBook and a Nikon D80 camera with a Nikkor 18 - 200mm lens. I am a newbie photographer but I really want to enhance some of the pictures I take by using some software.

For a newbie (and for a mac) is it better to get Photoshop or Aperture? What are the Pros and Cons of both?

Many thanks for your help!

Cheers
Coal


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User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7861 times:

Photoshop: Much more control over the end image, you can use Bridge for managing images in a reasonable way. Team it up with Nikon View NX for quick viewing and culling of images. Photoshop is also the industry standard software, so there are many great books available explaining its use for the digital photographer.

Aperture: Much better for managing photos, not as good for editing them.

I have both (Photoshop CS3 Extended on PC, Aperture 2 on Mac). I use:

Nikon D80 and D700
Various ED lenses (24-70 F/2.8, 300/4, VR 200-400/4, DX 18-135 with the D80)
iMac 20" (silver/black version) / PC.

I'd recommend Photoshop.

[Edited 2009-08-18 20:43:56]

User currently offlineJeffSFO From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 832 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7852 times:

I use Photoshop Lightroom 2.4 and have been really happy with it. It's different than Photoshop proper in that it's both a digital photo editor and a photo content management system but I've had very good results editing RAW images and doing all different kinds of photography, and even printing from it. Photoshop Lightroom also costs a lot less than Photoshop proper.

Photoshop proper is a whole different ballgame in that you can do heavy duty photo manipulation, layering, compositing, text, and even 3D effects. However, it is designed to work in conjunction with Photoshop Lightroom if you need to do some heavy lifting with your images, but you don't need Photoshop if you only have Photoshop Lightroom.

I haven't used Aperture so can't say anything good or bad about it.



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User currently offlineCvervais From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 610 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7851 times:
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I wrangled with this too when I started here. I happen to work for the fruit so trying Aperture didn't require a investment on my part except for time. It was difficult to work with and no one here could give me any advice. Plus, as CPD mentioned, there are a plethora of books on Photoshop.

I'd recommend you get Photoshop Elements. It's MUCH cheaper than the full blown photoshop and has all the capabilities you'll need to upload shots here.

I'd also highly recommend this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Photoshop-Elem...UTF8&s=books&qid=1250653725&sr=8-1

Here's the way I do my thing on my mac...

- Import all photos into iPhoto. (It has RAW support)
- Go through the photos one by one using the edit function and zooming in to actual pixels.
- Throw out the bad quality ones (soft, blurry, noisy, etc)
- Move the ones I really want to edit into a album called "Roughs"
- Leave the ones that are OK quality that I might want to have a go at if I have nothing left in the roughs album.
- Tag all the photos with the reg of the aircraft in case I need to search my "db" for a particular aircraft later.
- When I'm ready to edit a photo, I select it in the Roughs album and export it as a original (RAW) into a directory on my HD called Preprocess.
- I'll then fire up Photoshop elements and open the RAW image.
- I get my edit on and make the adjustments I need to make.
- I save the file as a psd file when I'm done editing in a directory called Processed
- I use the save for web to save a JPEG version of the image and place it in a directory called "Holding Short"
- I then copy the image to my iDisk so I can post the image in my pre-screening topic in this forum.
- If I feel the image is ready I upload it here from the Holding Short directory.
- If it's accepted I move the jpeg to a folder called "Accepted"
- Then I move the original in iPhoto from the Roughs album to the completed album.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

This process works for me, it might not be for everyone and people might even think I'm nuts doing it this way.

But, I find iPhoto to be a really easy program to triage my photos and sort them in a way that works for me.

Anyways, I hope this helps.


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 7845 times:

Quoting Cvervais (Reply 3):

But, I find iPhoto to be a really easy program to triage my photos and sort them in a way that works for me.

When View NX is free (included with Nikon cameras) and very fast, you don't worry about other programs for that purpose.  

Lightroom is also recommended, but it is still fairly costly - though not nearly as costly as Photoshop.

Quoting JeffSFO (Reply 2):
I haven't used Aperture so can't say anything good or bad about it.

It's not bad - but it could be improved. I never liked the look of the finished image to be honest - hard to describe, but I just didn't like it that much. It might have also been my settings too.

[Edited 2009-08-18 22:01:37]

User currently offlineCvervais From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 610 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7821 times:
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Quoting Cpd (Reply 4):
When View NX is free (included with Nikon cameras) and very fast, you don't worry about other programs for that purpose.

Yup, I wish Canon would catch up in that regard. But, iPhoto is also something I know and was easy to adapt to this task.

Plus, I can file bugs against each time it messes up. Big grin


User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1945 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7775 times:

Thanks for all the info. Just curious though: I don't do aviation photography, but rather like to shoot scenery, faces, or cityscapes. Would this make any difference? Or is Photoshop still better anyway?

Does the Photoshop for Mac have less features than Photoshop for PC?

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlineCvervais From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 610 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 5 days ago) and read 7773 times:
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Hey Coal, Photoshop is always going to be the better choice for a beginner since there's a wealth of information out there about it and lots of people that use it who can give advice.

Feature-wise it makes no difference wether it's Mac or PC.


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7764 times:



Quoting Coal (Reply 6):
Does the Photoshop for Mac have less features than Photoshop for PC?

The only difference is the look is a very slightly different and the shortcut keys are a little different, but the features are otherwise identical.

Photoshop is by far the best choice for a beginner - there is so much knowledge out there, especially for the full featured CS3/CS4 versions. It's also easy to use as well.


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