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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5452 times:
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Well, these were all rejected for being soft. Not an uncommon rejection for me, but due to the rarity of these shots, I'd love to be able to fix them (if possible).


http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20090827_e1250694216.4518trainyard8-17-2009064retouchedcropfinaljjm.jpg



http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20090827_s1250693949.9827trainyard8-17-2009039retouchedcropfinaljjm2.jpg


http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20090827_b1250715857.2314m1250693316.4527trainyard8-17-2009116retouchedcropfinaljjm3.jpg

I suspect they might be beyond repair, but welcome any tips or advice. Thanks in advance for any help.

2H4


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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5432 times:
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They look almost OOF. What were the technical details of the shots?

User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5423 times:
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Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 1):
They look almost OOF. What were the technical details of the shots?

First shot:
1/800
f7.1
200mm

Second shot:
1/1600
f5.6
200mm

Third shot:
1/1250
f5.6
105mm

All taken with a D50 and the Nikon 18-200 VR lens.

2H4



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5417 times:
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There is no need to shoot with a shutter speed so high, especially with marginal glass like the 18-200. You should be shooting in Aperture priority, with the Ap set to f/8. This will solve your constant 'soft' problem.

User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5415 times:
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Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 3):
There is no need to shoot with a shutter speed so high, especially with marginal glass like the 18-200. You should be shooting in Aperture priority, with the Ap set to f/8. This will solve your constant 'soft' problem.

Good tip, thank you. I'm (obviously) still learning...

2H4



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5406 times:
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It is a common mistake - and one I learned the hard way (lots of poor shots).

User currently offlineMHO From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5395 times:

I would suggest moving the f-stop to 8 or 9. That should give you more depth of field and help out with focus and soft spots.


Interesting photos - what's the story here?



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5363 times:
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Quoting MHO (Reply 6):
Interesting photos - what's the story here?

I found some fuselages on their way to final assembly at Renton.

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User currently offlineCvervais From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 610 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5334 times:

Yeah, I also fell victim to the the higher the shutter speed the better mentality when I started. It seemed to make sense, the faster the shutter the less motion would affect the shot so it should be tack sharp right? Well, not so much.

I don't know if it's because the longer shutter speeds let more light in and therefore more detail but, when I slowed things down to 1/800 or below my images started coming alive.

Now, if I could just edit them worth a damn maybe I'd have more on here Big grin


User currently offlineRuudb From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 164 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5326 times:

I am not really sure if your problem will be solved by using f8, I have tried an 18-200 and it isn't the sharpest lens Nikon ever produced, especially loads of vignetting in the low end and sharpness is ok till 135mm, so using 200mm on this lens is one of the main causes I think.
You could have better opted for your 180mm lens  Wink


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5217 times:
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Quoting Ruudb (Reply 9):
You could have better opted for your 180mm lens

Yes, I considered doing so, but I didn't think I'd be able to hold it steady enough. I didn't have my tripod and also wasn't able to use the ground, as I was standing among thorn bushes.  Smile

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User currently offlineRuudb From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 164 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5214 times:

I think the 180 at 2.8 is sharper as the 18-200 on 180 at 5.6 and as I see the shuttertimes you used it would have been not to difficult to do it without VR (kind of understatement  Big grin ).

User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5204 times:
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Quoting Ruudb (Reply 11):

Well, I'll chalk this up to having learned the hard way.  ashamed 

Thanks for the advice, though.

2H4



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