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First Dslr Your Opinions On This Purchase  
User currently offlineMWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 742 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

Not the best way to start a thread, however yes I started this thread linked below about 10 months ago,

Thinking Of Buying My First Dslr (by MWHCVT Nov 30 2008 in Aviation Photography)

Anyway time went by and finances caused me to put of purchase till now, I've been shopping around looking for a decent offering and think that I have found one.

I would like firstly an opinion on lenses that come with this 450D, secondly any accessories that you would recommend, and finally what do you think to the price of Body and lenses, it seems reasonable.

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-...mm-is-and-70-300mm-is-kit/p1028311

as with the previous thread your time, thoughts and responses are greatly appreciated, I will be make a purchases within the next 3-4 weeks so need the feedback.

MWH @ CVT


Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4859 times:

Generally Warehouse Express are the best people in the UK and their prices are hard to beat. The deal to which you link is pretty good if you ask me, and both lenses are good performers, despite the 17-85 lacking a bit in build quality.

Another option I'd consider is perhaps the standard kit (body + 18-55 IS) and the 70-200 F4 L, but this depends entirely on your budget. Should work out a similar price, although you have a 15mm gap (can be more of a pain than it sounds!) and -100mm at the long end. Still, you'll have a nicer telephoto lens which performs better at 200mm with crop than the 70-300 IS at 300mm.

For just a little extra I'd recommend the above L series lens with the 28-105 F3.5-4.5 USM II. Great lens, fairly cheap, very well built and fantastic optical performance, but again you lose a little at the short end (11mm).

Another consideration of course is how often you plan to use IS, and how important it will be to you. If you shoot a lot in low light or do a lot of panning it'll be essential really.

Karl


User currently offlineNwc100 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4824 times:

A little off topic but valid anyway, Have been looking for a Sony 70-300G for a while now on warehouse express it is priced at £667 at jessops it is priced at £499, I have looked at your kit on both sites and difference is only £1 more at Jessops, Sometimes it is worth looking on the street, When I got my DSLR at christmas Jessops threw in a few bits for free a bag and also I got an CF card 4gb for half price (cost me £20) which I had intended to buy from amazon for only £15 but needed it then and there for the instant gratification!

Just discount your local shop thats all.

Nick


User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4822 times:

I agree with Nick to a certain extent. I've bought from Jessops many times before, becasue a) they (used to?) offer a price-match with online stores and b) you can play with the kit there and then and get the feel for it. I'd rather support my local store and pay a little extra (£1 is nothing!), however Jessops' online sometimes offer better deals than the shops themselves.

Karl


User currently offlineMWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 742 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4703 times:

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 1):
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-->-->-->-->Quoting Nwc100 (Reply 2):
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Nick, Karl you both make truly excellent points, I though that I should share this list of items on my purchase list to see if there is anything I have missed. remember I intend to do general as well as aviation photography hence some of the bits of kit.

Camera and Lenses as above plus

WexPro 8GB 150x High Speed SDHC Card
Tamrac System 3 Camera Bag Black TA5603
Manfrotto 785B Modo Maxi Tripod
Canon -->AC--> Adaptor Kit -->ACK-->-E5 for EOS 450D / 1000D
Canon -->RS-->-60E3 Remote Switch
Canon -->LP-->-E5 Battery Pack for 450D / 500D / 1000D

There are reasons for many of the items, spare battery to me would appear to be a no brainer on a long day out, Other non brainers is Bag, Memory, Remote Switch because have read various sources this would appear to be the correct way to enable long exposures which Is something I am desperate to have a go at, -->AC--> Adapter because another thing I would love to have a go with is time lapse, finally tripod simply because I can see a need for this on occasion at least.

What would be recommended as a reasonable piece of editing software?

Also would you recommend getting any filters etc..?

If any one else has any input please chime in the more input the better.

Edited to say I have just ordered:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-Digita...ooks&qid=1254854256&sr=8-1

Canon 450D for Dummies from the reviews it would appear to be a good read/resource anyone here got it/read it, plus any other recommendations for reading material is welcomed warmly

[Edited 2009-10-06 11:40:47]


Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
User currently offlineNwc100 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4691 times:

Ok here are a few ideas, I purchased a copy of Photoshop elements from Amazon was about £25 If remember correctly a real bargain, Was version 6 I think, As regards the battery I thought I might need a spare one however my sony seems to have a never ending nuclear power source inside it, I have shot maybe 500 photos in one day nearly all without flash mind and still had at least 30% power left. This has also included the obligatory playing around by friends and family when you pull out a DSLR!

The bag I got Is Lowepro primus http://products.lowepro.com/catalog/Recycled-Materials,19.htm Mostly because I wanted somewhere to put my sandwiches, Once again purchased from amazon about half the price it was at warehouse express...

As for your other bits I have no idea but I'm sure someone else will be able to offer you some good advice.

regards Nick


User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4690 times:

Firstly, your decision to buy an appropriate book is admirable.

Filters are not necessary (except perhaps polarisers if you plan on using them) but are a useful way of protecting the lenses' front elements; as are lens hoods (which can also help reduce flare and other unwanted light sources).

A spare battery is indeed a no-brainer. Very useful indeed and can be had for cheap off Ebay.

I'd go for a couple of smaller memory cards than one 8gb - if you've got 1,000 images on it and it decides to go wrong.....

Camera bag/case is also pretty important - I use a designed-for-all-elements Peli case which, although expensive, is airtight, waterproof and built like a *****-****-*****! Not really necessary but gives me peace of mind! Take a look at some Lowepro back-packs - they are proving very popular and are easier to lug around than a case.

Karl


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4881 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4650 times:

For bags, I have a Tamrac Expedition bag, along with some other specific ones (Nikon CL-L2).

However, I'd recommend HPRC for heavy duty cases.


User currently offlineThomasWarloe From Norway, joined Jul 2008, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4646 times:

To start off, I have the 450D and I am very happy with it. If you aren't planning to use the kit lens that much, you might as well just buy the body($548 US on amazon, I think) -savings can be put towards a more expensive lens. As for the case, I used an opteka hard case. http://www.amazon.com/Opteka-X-Large...electronics&qid=1250819199&sr=8-14 It is cheaper than a Pelican case, yet it serves me just fine. As for lenses, the L series were a little bit over my budget so I got a f/4-5.6 55-250mm, and I am satisfied with that too. Good luck,

-Thomas



[Canon EOS 60D + Canon EF 70-200 f/4 L USM Lens + Canon EF 17-40 f/4 L USM Lens]
User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4619 times:



Quoting ThomasWarloe (Reply 8):
To start off, I have the 450D and I am very happy with it. If you aren't planning to use the kit lens that much, you might as well just buy the body($548 US on amazon, I think) -savings can be put towards a more expensive lens.

I'd be happy with a 17-85mm on the 450D. I have an 18-55 IS (upgraded) on my 400D and it definitely does the job: I'm extremely happy with the quality from what I paid. I think the 17-85 is a good place to start from though for a normalish angle point of view.

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 6):
I'd go for a couple of smaller memory cards than one 8gb - if you've got 1,000 images on it and it decides to go wrong.....

I concur, even though I haven't had any problems using a sole 4gb yet; I still have a 2gb in my camera bag.



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineMWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 742 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4605 times:

Well thanks guys, here's the news, just waiting for the funds to clear into my credit card account and then were good to go, I expect to make the purchase in the next few hours.

Based on advise given, I have changed the order to 2 x 4gb instead of 1 x 8gb, I'm also re-evaluating camera bags, have also added PS Elements into the order.

Thanks guy, and look out for that first pre-sceening thread soon  Wink



Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
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