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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2068 posts, RR: 51
Posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5147 times:
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Hi guys,

for the time being I have a Nikon D700 with a Nikkor 18-200mm DX lens as my prime travel equipment. I use this combination as it allows for the best flexibility when I'm on the road.

However, as you may know the DX lenses only allow me to shoot 5MP photos on a camera that would normally allow 12MP. So right now I'm on the lookout for a successor to this lens.
Ideally it would again be a lens with the same zoom range but I want one that offers good quality, sharpness and low light capability.

I know a zoom lens will always be a trade-off of some kind, so I'm looking for experiences from you guys with that kind of lenses on the D700, before I decide on a certain lens.

Thierry


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5147 times:

80-200 2.8. Been my primary since the beginning and it never lets me down.

User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2068 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5147 times:
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Hey Nicholas,

sadly with 80mm to start with I won't be able to take good cockpit shots. I'd rather cut on the farther end then.

Thierry



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5147 times:
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Quoting ThierryD (Thread starter):
Ideally it would again be a lens with the same zoom range but I want one that offers good quality, sharpness and low light capability.

While keeping the 18-200 size? Such a lens does not exist. But the 18-200 has none of those qualities, either.


User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5147 times:
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You might have to face the inevitable... it will be much better to just carry two lenses, rather than one do-it-all. If you're already carrying something the size/weight of the D700 around, an additional lens won't be that much more. Plus, you'll get so much more quality out of two more specified lenses...but I'm sure you've been told that before...

If carrying a single super-zoom lens for a full-frame camera is really your only option (seems like a kind of waste of the quality of the D700 Big grin) you might have to go back a few years. Nikon produced in relatively small numbers a 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 for full frame, but it's no longer in production. It should be relatively cheap if you can find one. I know Sigma also used to make a 28-300mm for full frame (Tamron probably did also), but even on APS-C the quality was lacking, I can't imagine how much the D700 would expose the weakness in that lens. Your best bet would be to try to find a copy of that Nikon 28-200mm. Good luck!

Dana


User currently onlineCreep From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5147 times:

Go here: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d700/lenses.htm

If you have the room in your kit and the cash to drop for it, pick up the 70-200 f/2.8. Fantastic lens.


User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 584 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5147 times:

Nikkor 24-120mm VR? Or, if you are loaded, the Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8.


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User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5147 times:
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Quoting Creep (Reply 5):
Nikkor 24-120mm VR? Or, if you are loaded, the Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8.



Quoting Creep (Reply 5):
If you have the room in your kit and the cash to drop for it, pick up the 70-200 f/2.8. Fantastic lens.

I think he's looking for something that covers both wide and telephoto. As Royal mentioned, a good quality lens such as that does not exist, and the ones (I've mentioned above) that do make the obvious compromises you would expect from a super-zoom.


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2068 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5147 times:
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Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 3):
While keeping the 18-200 size? Such a lens does not exist. But the 18-200 has none of those qualities, either.

I'm aware of that Royal but given the zoom range, what would be the best compromise? See when I travel around and with all the annoying security controls I have to go through, sometimes on a daily basis, I'm not ready to carry around more than absolutely necessary.

Quoting Dlowwa (Reply 4):
If carrying a single super-zoom lens for a full-frame camera is really your only option (seems like a kind of waste of the quality of the D700

Yeah, I know it's a waste but as said it's only for my (professional) round-trips, so I don't really need a high-end lens, just something that will do the job.
I'll have a look at that 28-300mm lens.  Smile

Quoting Creep (Reply 5):
pick up the 70-200 f/2.8

As already said, starting off at 70mm won't give me the capability of taking cockpit shots...

Thierry



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2068 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5095 times:
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Quoting NicolasRubio (Reply 6):
Nikkor 24-120mm VR

You got any experience with that lens? How does it perform?

Thierry



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User currently offlineUnitedJumboJet From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5077 times:

How about the old 28-200?

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5065 times:



Quoting ThierryD (Reply 2):
sadly with 80mm to start with I won't be able to take good cockpit shots

Well you don't need a powerful zoom for that you need a different lens. I carry 3 lenses.


User currently offlineAlberto Riva From United States of America, joined May 2002, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5058 times:

Thierry, I use the 24-120VR often on a D200 and it never disappointed me -- if I keep my expectations reasonable. Stopped down to f/6.7 or 8 it's a very good lens, not the top optical quality of an f/2.8 zoom but perfectly good for A.net and frankly anywhere else.

I do not know how it would be on a far more demanding full-frame sensor, but that's the lens I would get if I had a D700 and needed to compromise. If you shoot cockpits you need at least 24, I'd consider 28mm not wide enough. So that rules out the 28-200, or the 28-300. Frankly if you shoot a 28-300 on a D700 you're just pissing off the Gods!  Smile


User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5057 times:
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Quoting ThierryD (Reply 8):
See when I travel around and with all the annoying security controls I have to go through, sometimes on a daily basis, I'm not ready to carry around more than absolutely necessary...

Yeah, I know it's a waste but as said it's only for my (professional) round-trips, so I don't really need a high-end lens, just something that will do the job.

Yeah, the Nikon (or Sigma) 28-200 3.5-5.6 is looking like your best (and maybe the only) bet.

There is also the 24-120 as Nicolas mentioned, if you want to gain a little at the wide end, but trade away some of the longer end.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/s...p?product=111&sort=7&cat=28&page=2

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/s...p?product=108&sort=7&cat=28&page=2

Both got average review scores.

Dana


User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 584 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5049 times:



Quoting ThierryD (Reply 9):
You got any experience with that lens? How does it perform?

Thierry

Although I use Canon, I have used it twice, but only once in FX. Strangely enough, they were both on the same day but different moments. After having lunch I walked into a Nikon Center which was right across the street from the restaurant, where I tested it with the Nikon D300s. I also tried that camera with the 16-85mm VR. They both seemed quite good, but I liked the 16-85mm focal length more, as I was on a DX camera.

Later that day I attended a wedding where the photographer was using to D700 bodys, one with the 24-120mm VR and another one with a wide, fast prime (dunno which!). We chatted a bit about photography and after some talk I tried one of her D700s, the one with the 24-120mm VR. I really liked it, much more than I did on the D300s and even more than I liked the 16-85mm VR on the D300s.

Hope it helps!



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 22 hours ago) and read 5033 times:
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Without trying to hurt anyones feelings, the 24-120 is a dog. A decent quality lens in this focal area does not exist in the current Nikon line-up.

I guess you are trying to travel light, Thierry? This is why I bought a D5000 - to keep in the trunk of my car. My set-up for my D700 is:

20mm f/2.8
24mm f/2.8
28mm f/2.8
50mm f/1.8
85mm f/1.8
15-30
70-200

My set-up for my D5000 is just a 18-55 and 55-200 kit lens. And I still bring my D200 out and about, it currently has a 17-55 f/2.8 hanging off it.


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 5011 times:

What you are looking for doesn't really exist.

I don't really have anything else to add, except that you might need to get two smaller lenses, such as the 24-70mm F/2.8, and the 70-200mm F/2.8 VR II.

Agree completely with Clickhappy. Canon had a 28-300mm (very heavy too), but Nikon has nothing like this.


User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2068 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 4973 times:
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Quoting Alberto Riva (Reply 12):
I use the 24-120VR often on a D200 and it never disappointed me

I've read several reviews on it, but it's apparently pretty poor when it comes to quality an sharpness. One reviewer even called it the "worst lens ever made by Nikon".

Quoting Cpd (Reply 16):
What you are looking for doesn't really exist.

You might be right; at least I couldn't find a lens that would improve my current situation.

Anyway, many thanks for all your inputs, guys!

Thierry



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 4967 times:
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Thierry - maybe the 24-85 "G Grind" will work for you? I wish I had never sold mine, and they are fairly inexpensive (but no VR)

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