Zbot69 From Hong Kong, joined May 2009, 135 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1193 times:
Howdy guys! Okay, I'll give this prescreening thing a go...
ABC 74F trying for a very convincing run at a Mach Loop simulation a la Lantau Island... I decided on the looser crop because the hills came out so friggin gorgeous between the storm clouds and downpours...
Our world reknown sulfur sunsets... 1/30th second hand pan w/ f11 to moderate the light...
My beloved triple rejectee... rejected for "dark"... then "contrast"... and finally "grainy"...
And more Russian aviation...
And LAST... but certainly not least... this shot is simply for your viewing delight... a screener was very gracious to lend his time, and eye, and judgment, and advised it would be a waste of time to attempt to upload this shot here. I say... for shame....
That's a 1/4 second hand pan at 1600 ISO in pitch black at 830pm...
Thanks for your time and THOUGHTFUL comments. I apologize for the length as always, but if I had to do this by dribs and drabs nothing would ever come of it.
Let me also say, a nice collection of pics. As for their 'technical' merits for a.net,
1. Needs to be brightened and a some contrast added. There are also some jaggies starting to show, but not too bad. Whether it would survive the cropping/motive test, I can't say, but I can say that I personally don't dislike how you've done it.
2. Also brighten and contrast, but just a little. Otherwise looks good, assuming the color cast reason is acceptable. Starting to see a little grain.
3. Nice. Should definitely keep trying with this one, good chance at the front page. It looks good, but unfortunately I can still see some grain the sky. If you can selectively attack that noise, should have a good chance.
4. Again, needs to be brighter with more contrast. The big problem is the grain... don't know if you can fix that, but otherwise looks good.
Thanks for your kind remarks and sharp insight Dana. I think your remarks are spot on, and I hope I can find the time to make some effort with these guys. My problem is I'm hampered by limited Photoshop skills. I think the trouble edges on the ABC 74F are pretty obvious, I haven't been able to follow the work flow on selective sharpening and especially selectively erasing. It's all gobbledygook to me. I've been barely able to figure out working with one layer, and I'm reading about work flows that have as many as five layers... ouch! I've attempted to judge color cast the same way, but again, apparently I'm not reading the histograms correctly. Trial and error for sure.
I had also wanted to add these images at the tail end of our lengthy debates on what constitutes and A.net photo to underscore that I meant it when I said my best images aren't the ones I've uploaded, at least, in my eyes. I just wanted to get a few shots on the site to experience the process. Same with these babies. I hope I find the time to do the required work to "perfect" them... but if it's a toss up between being around the perimeter sniffing fumes or finnagling away with Photoshop... the JP-8/Jet A or what have you wins every time....
On that note... I hope more people find a few minutes to leave feedback, particularly of course those Preatorian Guard screener types.
Final question... is it possible that my camera produces excessive grain beyond "normal" levels? From the first time I've shot it I've found more noise than I liked, and it always seems to me comparable pics from similar cameras are much less noisy? I've been to Canon 6 times over the last 18 months... one more trip's not going to break the bank I suppose.
Thanks again all and let have a great weekend out there at the fence!
Silver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4538 posts, RR: 26 Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1165 times:
Quoting Zbot69 (Thread starter): And LAST... but certainly not least... this shot is simply for your viewing delight... a screener was very gracious to lend his time, and eye, and judgment, and advised it would be a waste of time to attempt to upload this shot here. I say... for shame....
First of all, great set of shots. Dana gave a pretty good breakdown already. Just wanted to say I like your last shot. I took a similar shot (you can see it via my flickr link in my profile if you want). It's a shame they will never stand a chance here. Still a great shot, thanks for sharing.
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 2968 posts, RR: 60 Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1157 times:
Some excellent images here - I particularly like 1, 3 and 4 and would have high hopes for these (2 might be fine too, though I would like to see what the original looks like).
I have sent you an email, as I would be very happy to offer any help I can regarding editing these to get them to the standard required, which you look close to anyhow. I think there are some editing issues here which can be improved.
Best wishes with them - I share your views about that lovely mountain backdrop!
Zbot69 From Hong Kong, joined May 2009, 135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 986 times:
Thanks again to everyone who has taken time out to offer their input! I was one of the readers who had been frequently annoyed by these prescreening threads, understood the necessity of them, just thought them an impediment to browsing larger "issue" threads I suppose... but I was glad to have been challenged by Alevik to post a few of the photos for feedback and have found it a great learning experience.
I'm taking advantage of some very generous offers to assist with the additional edits and hope to be able to make the necessary adjustments and have the photos in the queue in due time.
Submitting the photos here for prescreening has probably been the best learning experience I've enjoyed since joining A.net. Should have done this months earlier, might have saved me a lot of time and trouble.