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User currently offlineGdsF100 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5189 times:

I was recently contacted by a pilot who said he was flying a LearJet 60 at the time I took a photo of it. In his email he requested a hi res, watermark free copy of it so he can have a print of it made for his desk. He also said he didn't know what the going rate for a photo was but he would gladly pay for it.

First of all I do not plan on giving him the file so he could have a copy made. I will have it printed and then sell it to him.
Second of all I don't have any idea of what to charge for a printed copy. I know it depends on the size of print he wants. I used a Canon 40D and shot in RAW mode. I do not know what the maximum size of print I can have made and make it still look good. I thought about going through someplace like MPIX to have it done.

If anybody familiar with doing print sales would offer me some advice I would greatly appreciate it.

Jeff Snyder

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User currently offlinestevemchey From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5178 times:

I am not trying to tell you how to handle this sale, but here is what I would do. Since it clearly seems to be for personal use, I would either give him the file (so he can print it himself) or offer to sell him a print at cost. In return, I would ask him to give you a tour of the jet and maybe some other jets he has access to. That way you can get even more nice shots...

If you really want to sell the picture, I don't think you can ask for too much. If you were selling exclusive rights to the shot to an airline, ad company or author, you could base the price on the profit/benefit they get from the picture. With an individual, I don't think you can ask for more than $50 (on the high end).

Good luck.


User currently offlinedvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1744 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5167 times:
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Sell him a 12x18 color glossy photograph for $40 shipped and you'll both be happy with the transaction.

[Edited 2010-03-14 20:30:15]


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User currently offlineGdsF100 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

I was thinking closer to $40. But I do like the suggestion of the tour of the jet.

Thanks


User currently onlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2327 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5052 times:

Quoting dvincent (Reply 2):
Sell him a 12x18 color glossy photograph

That must be a pretty big desk it's going on. I can't imagine him wanting anything larger than an 8x10.

It is for personal use, but you still should make a little profit on it. Shipping plus materials will be around $5 and the cost to print should be another $5. I might double or triple it and quote that. Maybe $20 and a tour or $30 with no tour.  



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User currently offlinedvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1744 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5023 times:
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Quoting unattendedbag (Reply 4):
That must be a pretty big desk it's going on. I can't imagine him wanting anything larger than an 8x10.

pfff, desks. Such art belongs on a wall.  



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User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4980 times:

Quoting GdsF100 (Reply 3):
I was thinking closer to $40. But I do like the suggestion of the tour of the jet.

Personally, I see far greater value in a tour than an 8x10 for personal use. I'd feel kinda insulted if I gave you a personal tour of my Lear, perhaps letting you sit in the cockpit, etc... and you still wanted money for a print? C'mon  

Also consider you'd probably score some cool up close and personal shots of the jet - inside and out.

I'd just ask him if there's any possibility for a tour. If yes, you could bring the print as a gift in exchange. If not, I'd charge him just a few $ above cost.

Just my opinion  


User currently offlineGdsF100 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4908 times:

The pilot I am in contact with has said the other pilot with him at the time and the owner would like a print also. He said an 8x10 would be fine but he personally wants one poster size. He also insisted on paying me above cost for my time and effort. Since the owner wants one also I may be able to score a tour and payment. But if it comes down to it I think I would rather have a tour of the jet.

Jeff


User currently offlinekukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4904 times:

Quoting GdsF100 (Thread starter):
I do not know what the maximum size of print I can have made and make it still look good.

As for this question, it's useful to start with the publishing industry standard of 300 pixels per inch, which means a 40D image would produce a print nearly 13 inches wide assuming no edge cropping. However, framed prints at 200 ppi or so will still stand up to scrutiny especially since they are typically viewed from a greater distance than a picture in a book. So you can do 18 x 12 inches comfortably.

For prints bigger than 18 x 12 I would interpolate the image up to a larger size in Photoshop.



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User currently offlineflipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1572 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4858 times:
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If the owner can afford his own jet then he can afford a few bob for you.

About blowing it up, I personally think you can go as high as you want, if you have bigger pictures you stand further back. I have personally taken a 6mp file up to 30 x 20 and it looked fine. People who look at pictures through microscopes and look at samples zoomed at 100% on review websites should go buy some books on lighting  

Fred


User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4788 times:

Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 9):
About blowing it up, I personally think you can go as high as you want, if you have bigger pictures you stand further back. I have personally taken a 6mp file up to 30 x 20 and it looked fine. People who look at pictures through microscopes and look at samples zoomed at 100% on review websites should go buy some books on lighting

Similarly I have blown a 5mp image up to A0 size (albeit bleached of much of its colour as it was a background to text on a poster) without any noticeable drop in quality from the viewing distance of 2-3m it was intended for.


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 45
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4740 times:

Quoting GdsF100 (Thread starter):
I used a Canon 40D and shot in RAW mode. I do not know what the maximum size of print I can have made and make it still look good. I thought about going through someplace like MPIX to have it done.

I have a poster hanging on my wall (thru smugmug) 20x30".......it came out very nice!

Vasco


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