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Canon 50D Vs 550D  
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10182 times:

Hi Guys,

I've looked through a few topics which all seem to be locked away now regarding these (and possibly a few more) cameras. I've had my 400D for a good 4 years now and I think it's soon time for an upgrade for various reasons. So I pose the following questions:

What extra does the 50D provide over the 550D apart from double the fps and possibly quicker AF?
The 50D is NZ$100 more than the 550D at the shop where I'm going to buy it from (warranty from home is probably the better way to go about it). How long before the 60D will be released and would that fit better between the 7D and 550D? I have a feeling I want to shoot videos too so in that case I'll be leaning towards the 550D.
The solidity of the 50D sounds appealing but the weight of it doesn't. I haven't bashed my 400D around so I'm assuming the 550D can withstand whatever I've put the 400D through.

I'd like to know your opinions.. I can't find a decent website with a good comparison between these cameras just yet.

Thanks for any help!

Cheers,
Nicholas


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User currently offlinevishaljo From India, joined Aug 2006, 474 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10178 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
How long before the 60D will be released and would that fit better between the 7D and 550D?

Here are the rumoured specs, obviously no dates yet but if you go by the last spec about prototypes in the field then it should be soon i hope   

Quote:

http://www.canonrumors.com/2010/04/canon-60d-specs-release-cr1/

60D Specs

* 18mp (7D Sensor)
* 11pt AF (New AF System)
* Same Video Modes as T2i
* Same LCD as T2i
* 6fps
* Not 100% VF
* No Electronic Level
* ISO 12800 Max
* Prototypes are in the field



User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3309 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10140 times:
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I just bought a 50D 3 days ago. I argued with myself and others about getting the 500D (not the 550D) instead. Here's what I found and why I made my decision:

1) The sensors and processors are identical so, for all intents and purposes, the image quality will be identical. (However, 15MP is about the limit for an APS-C sensor this size, so any lens defects will be exaggerated and more evident at full-size crops. I can only imagine this issue would be worse yet on the 550D.)

2) The 500D is made of plastic and feels flimsy (this has always been my biggest gripe about entry-level Canons. I used my roommates Rebel xT and hated the way it felt in my hands).

3) I won't really ever use video. I need a good kit for plane-spotting predominantly. Plus, the 50D has the same sensor and processor as the rebel series, so it IS possible (though unlikely) that Canon will release a firmware update that allows it to do video.

4) Higher frame-rate in the 50D is perfect for the spots I shoot on occasion.

I took all this into consideration and after speaking with many Canon photographers on this site (I shot Olympus until I bought the 50D) I decided that it was worth it to expand my budget a little bit and get the better-built body.

My final kit looked like this: 50D, Canon EF-S 18-135 f3.5-5.6 IS, Canon EF 100-400 f4-5.6 L IS USM.

I'm like a little kid every time I take it out. I'm so happy with it. That 100-400 is an amazing piece of glass.

TIS



www.stellaryear.com: Canon EOS 50D, Canon EOS 5DMkII, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 24-70 2.8L II, Canon 100mm 2.8L, Canon 100-4
User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10138 times:

Judging by your requirements I'll go against the flow here and recommend the 550D; simply because it's more of what you're used to. If you were happy with the 400D you'll be more than satisfied with the 550D - and besides, you won't miss the 50D's speed if you never had it in the first place.

Karl


User currently offlinespencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10115 times:

Get what your budget can stretch to. If you're only going to ever want to upload pictures or view them on the computer screen, then go for the cheaper, but highly functional, 550. Remember the lens is what generally makes or breaks a picture, so invest in those in the future. Just do a search here on A.net for pictures taken with the cameras you talk of; I think the 550 users have uploaded some stunners!!
Spence.



EOS1D4, 7D, 30D, 100-400/4.5-5.6 L IS USM, 70-200/2.8 L IS2 USM, 17-40 f4 L USM, 24-105 f4 L IS USM, 85 f1.8 USM
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10031 times:

Thanks for your comments so far!

Quoting vishaljo (Reply 1):

Interesting to see when they'll release it and for what price.

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 2):

Yeah, I'm ok with the plastic body from my use of the 400D so that definitely won't bother me. That 100-400 is something I'm saving up for as well.

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 3):

That's one ofthe only trade-offs in my view - the speed factor vs a likelihood I'll want to take movies from the DSLR. I've always thought it would be nice to have a bit more buffer when taking photos on say a takeoff run because sometimes I fill it up too quickly and have to wait but by that time the plane has gone past its prime position..

If Canon introduced a double wheel into the 550D, it may have made it a better camera IMO. The Nikon D90 feels like a very nice camera but I've just splashed out on a 10-22mm and I don't see myself changing to Nikon at any stage and as I mentioned above, my eyes are set on the 100-400.

Quoting spencer (Reply 4):

With it only being NZ$100 (approx 50 quid) difference, price isn't really a factor for me between these two lenses. Anyway, I'll have to buy accessories such as batteries, SD cards (if I go for the 550D) and the like as well. I just don't believe that $100 is something to worry about at this stage but more of the fact that the camera I'll go for does the job for me. There's a possibility of me holding out for the 600D vs 60D too because I'm sure Canon have found some minor flaws/omissions which could easily be added into the next model such as the level.


But in saying all this, I think that I'm likely to head for the 550D.

Also, does anyone know the quality of the 15-85mm IS USM? It's surely a step up from the 18-55mm IS I currently possess and I'm sure to sell that along with the 400D when the time comes. It's a very handy and light lens but lacks the quality. I'm not really sure if I want to head back to the kit lens when I get this camera but I'd rather save up for the 100-400 than to splash out on a good medium range lens. Any suggestions if I were to go away from the 18-55 IS?


Cheers,
Nicholas



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User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4881 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 9996 times:

I'd recommend the speed factor of the 50D against the extra megapixels. That speed is often useful. However, I'm going to go against everyone and suggest you wait for the 60D if you can and then decide.

Then you can get the best of both worlds. As long as the cost doesn't also end up being hefty.


User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9956 times:

Quoting cpd (Reply 6):
As long as the cost doesn't also end up being hefty

Which it of course will in the case of the 60D. At least until the 70D anyway.....

Karl


User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9947 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 5):
Any suggestions if I were to go away from the 18-55 IS?

The 17-55 f2.8 - arguably the sharpest non-L zoom that Canon has.

http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/425-canon_1755_28is_50d



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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9938 times:

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 8):
The 17-55 f2.8 - arguably the sharpest non-L zoom that Canon has

I must admit at that price I'd definitely buy an L lens! What are Sigma's EX wide-angle zooms like?

Karl


User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1991 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9938 times:
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Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 2):
The sensors and processors are identical so, for all intents and purposes, the image quality will be identical.

Will they? There is also firmware. I personally don't know for sure, I'm only suggesting that different firmware may affect certain aspects of image quality differently, at least in jpeg.

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 3):
you won't miss the 50D's speed if you never had it in the first place

And you will never know what you are missing.

Quoting cpd (Reply 6):
I'd recommend the speed factor of the 50D against the extra megapixels.

Totally agree.

[Edited 2010-04-08 14:55:29]

User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9929 times:

If speed will be an advantage to you then I agree with the others but I still think that you won't miss what you've never had. If the 400D has served you well and you feel you've not missed much due to slightly sluggish performance then the 550D it should be.

Karl


User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4881 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9923 times:

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 7):
Which it of course will in the case of the 60D. At least until the 70D anyway.....

Sometimes, you just have to bite the bullet and say, this is what I want - I'm going to budget for it and be done with it. Australia usually gets the worst prices for new camera equipment - and I remember the 50D was pretty well priced when it came out.


User currently offlinevishaljo From India, joined Aug 2006, 474 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9906 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 5):
I'll want to take movies from the DSLR.

550D it is then. I agree with you on the video bit as i'm sure there would be some if not many occasions when you will really need that feature.

About waiting for the 60D, Currently the price of a 50D is $1k USD & 550D is $800 USD.
When the 60D comes out, its price is likely to be atleast $1100 or more & perhaps the 550D's price may dip - thereby widening the gap.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 5):
I've always thought it would be nice to have a bit more buffer when taking photos on say a takeoff run because sometimes I fill it up too quickly and have to wait but by that time the plane has gone past its prime position.

I'm sorry but i've never been a fan of that.

I've actually found a lot of joy in just waiting for the right composition & taking about 3-5 shots of the sequence at leisure than doing Click...click...click....click...click...click....click...click...click.... till the plane is out of focal length range.

Time actually stops during those mini/micro-seconds as you wait to frame the ideal shot while that 777 Heavy is playing its GE90's on Loud while galloping past you, maybe you should try it sometime  thumbsup 

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 9):
What are Sigma's EX wide-angle zooms like?

Karl, While not an EX Lens i've heard a lot of good things about Sigma 17-70mm f2.8 - 4.5, a local spottographer   friend of mine has it & he is very happy with it.

But its a DC lens (like EF-S for cropped sensors only) & not a DG (Like EF - Compatible with Full-Frame Cameras).

Among EX's, there are a lot of mixed-responses as the clientele is a also a bit more photo mature than the non-EX buyers.

I think Paul Paulsen has the 12-24 EX, just checkout these reviews of it on B&H, every second review is opposite of the one before it   

[Edited 2010-04-08 19:15:36]

User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3309 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9883 times:
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Quoting Chukcha (Reply 10):
Will they? There is also firmware. I personally don't know for sure, I'm only suggesting that different firmware may affect certain aspects of image quality differently, at least in jpeg.

The firmware may differ, but I didn't think it did. If so, then there may be some differences in JPG, but RAW images should be identical, for all intents and purposes.

TIS



www.stellaryear.com: Canon EOS 50D, Canon EOS 5DMkII, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 24-70 2.8L II, Canon 100mm 2.8L, Canon 100-4
User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4881 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9865 times:

Quoting vishaljo (Reply 13):
I've actually found a lot of joy in just waiting for the right composition & taking about 3-5 shots of the sequence at leisure

That's what I do. I actually only take 2 or 3 photos of a plane, if that. Otherwise if I hold the button down - my camera fills up 8gb CF cards too fast. Mine can rattle off 8fps. Taking less images saves time in not having to cull so many photos. But when I do click of an image, the reaction is really fast.

The best thing in a camera for our kind of photography is one that is fast (FPS), and has a big frame buffer. That's useful.


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9794 times:

Quoting cpd (Reply 6):

Yeah, I'm not in it for the megapixels but I may have no choice as there isn't an altermative - 500D seems a bit inferior on other aspects apart from the buffer/FPS.

Quoting vishaljo (Reply 13):
I'm sorry but i've never been a fan of that.

I've actually found a lot of joy in just waiting for the right composition & taking about 3-5 shots of the sequence at leisure than doing Click...click...click....click...click...click....click...click...click.... till the plane is out of focal length range.

Nor am I, although when I started off 6 years ago, that's exactly what I was doing..

But when shooting in RAW + JPG, the 400D fills up pretty quickly and only allows maybe 6 shots. Sometimes I know that I've got a light pole in the picture too so I have to take another one quite soon after to achieve a similar angle but without the pole. If I only had something like a 5D II, it'd be pretty hard for me to fill the buffer up. I also refuse to use AI Servo as the autofocus isn't always clever enough to know that the plane's the subject.. That slows me down a bit too.


Thanks for the continuing comments.. At the moment in my head it's sounding like either get the 550D now or wait for the 60D.

Cheers,
Nicholas



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User currently offlinevishaljo From India, joined Aug 2006, 474 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9763 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 16):
But when shooting in RAW + JPG, the 400D fills up pretty quickly and only allows maybe 6 shots. Sometimes I know that I've got a light pole in the picture too so I have to take another one quite soon after to achieve a similar angle but without the pole. If I only had something like a 5D II, it'd be pretty hard for me to fill the buffer up. I also refuse to use AI Servo as the autofocus isn't always clever enough to know that the plane's the subject.. That slows me down a bit too.

Well, Why would you want to shoot in RAW + JPG ?
Just shoot RAW.
It should give you a 1.5-2 fps push as compared to the above.

Also instead of shooting in VERY Rapid Succession - just shoot in Rapid Succession (If you really need to commit that sin).

Take those micro-seconds gap & just ENJOY whats happening in front of you, it should ensure that you can accommodate even more shots till the CF card says F*** Y**  


User currently offlineb787Dreamliner From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9690 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Thread starter):
I can't find a decent website with a good comparison between these cameras just yet.

Look at this site: http://the-digital-picture.com/


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