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Acceptance Ratio - Does It Still Matter To You?  
User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5150 times:

Obviously, acceptance ratio has no real significance anymore - but does it still matter to you?

It does to me at the moment, because I'm on my little quest to get a 100% acceptance ratio - it was 72%, then I uploaded 10 images, 1 was accepted, 2 rejected and the other 7 accepted - so despite all that, it only went up to 74%. Those two rejections killed my efforts! I thought it would have gone up more than that...   

Enough of my ramblings and over to you to discuss.

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User currently onlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4782 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5104 times:
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I still pay attention to it. My ratio peaked at 80% right at the time of the change to where acceptance ratio no longer matters. I still hate how one rejection lowers your ratio, but getting that 2% back can be a royal pain in the a**! I'm stuck at 78% right now.

I still use it to guage my performance. Plus I have considered trying for screener in the past and I know the ratio factors into that. It's kinda like an academic GPA...lol.



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User currently offlineBottie From Belgium, joined May 2004, 281 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5104 times:

I never cared about the acceptance ratio ...

With only 424 pictures in the db, there's also no reason to care. The day I care about it, I'll start uploading no-risk shots  Wink

[Edited 2010-04-12 23:24:08]

User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5092 times:

It matters to me, but only to a limited extent.

It matters in the sense that it is a measure of my success in meeting the screening criteria. However, since some of those criteria (notably those relating to Level, Centre, Grain and Sharpness) are not relevant to non-Anet photography - and indeed go against normal and commonly-accepted aesthetic and compositional standards - my acceptance ratio does not matter outside the limited context I have mentioned above.

At the moment it is at 68%, but will no doubt fall when the 15 shots I currently have in the queue are screened. Some of those are museum shots involving flash, unusual angles and crops, parts of aircraft obstructed, etc.



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User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5083 times:

Not really, it's a good thing to see when it's high but I didn't even care when slots were dwindled by a low ratio.
Mine has been from 20% to 80%...

Quoting Viv (Reply 3):
(notably those relating to Level, Centre, Grain and Sharpness)

And color!



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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5079 times:
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It still matters to me in a way that I consider it as a personal challenge to reach and maintain the 90%+ limit, though I'm unlikely to achieve this with my often borderline photos that I upload.  
The way is the goal...

Thierry



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User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2910 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5067 times:

It's a personal challange for me to keep my acceptance ratio at a reasonable level. It's currently 90% and has been around that for the last few months. It obviously has no bearing on the number of upload slots now, so it's just the challange of keeping it high for me these days.

Darren



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5692 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5058 times:
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Quoting cpd (Thread starter):
It does to me at the moment, because I'm on my little quest to get a 100% acceptance ratio

Damn it Chris, I hope you never get to 100%.

100% acceptance ratio would mean you are not stretching the limits here enough!

With your skilss that would be a shame.

Cheers

C



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User currently offlineraedervision From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 63 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5048 times:
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I keep trying to expand the "photography" envelope and if I don't bounce a few I'm not trying hard enough. Ratio doesn't mean much to me.

User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1399 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5046 times:
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Yes, I care, but I haven't really started to upload until now. My ratio is 50%, and most of the rejections was from a few years back when I didn't know better. I have only uploaded 50 shots in 4 years and have 26 of those accepted. Had I started this year it would be 85%.
It was tiresome when I only had 2 slots and the screening took 12-14 days, so I just didn't bother and only uploaded those I really wanted to show. But, main reason to try and up the ratio is because I expect that the ratio will play a factor again in the future.

And, you can never reach 100% if you've had a rejection, even if it is one out of 10.000 upoloads  



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User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1743 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4987 times:
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I get a few bounces here and there, but it's been between mid 80s and 90% for a long time now. It doesn't matter as much to me anymore, but it's a nice piece of statistics.

What I'd like to see is better hit tracking stats... like, I'd like to know how many total hits i've gotten every day and such... admittedly I'm wondering if I'll get a million hits by the end of the year.



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User currently offlinecodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

I cared a long time ago for a moment, now it's just a number.

KS/codeshare



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User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4977 times:

Quoting stealthz (Reply 7):
With your skilss that would be a shame.


What do mean? I'm still a relative hack as far as this goes.

I still have a lot of images I never uploaded - so I'm looking through them to see what might be good - as you probably noticed from the old dates of some of my recent uploads.   I'm not going to do anything particularly different - just take pictures of what I want, the way I want to do them.

I'm actually not that motivated at the moment - because around Sydney airport, what is there to photograph that hasn't really been done to death. Perhaps if you hire a helicopter or annoy the powers that be to get you onto the tower observation deck for those high angle photos - that's a bit different, but that has already been done many times too.

When airport watch comes into play (if it ever happens) - then we might get some better opportunities, provided someone doesn't do something silly.

Quoting Dvincent (Reply 10):
What I'd like to see is better hit tracking stats... like, I'd like to know how many total hits i've gotten every day and such... admittedly I'm wondering if I'll get a million hits by the end of the year.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind that - along with some stats on the countries of people who viewed our images.

[Edited 2010-04-13 04:34:01]

[Edited 2010-04-13 04:34:38]

User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4880 times:

I'm not bothered at all because...

a) It doesn't affect my available upload slots
b) I've pushed through quite a few 'daring' shots I wouldn't have submitted before the change

...and perhaps most importantly...

c) I do this hobby for me and no-one/nothing else.


I must admit however that it's made me a little more complacent. Before I would double-check my edits to make sure every last little detail was fine; now I just whack 'em in the queue and hope for the best! My ratio hasn't been helped lately by a change in both camera and monitor either, although I'm beginning to really get to grips with them now.

Over the last couple of weeks I've had about 25 straight rejections and my ratio tuimbled to 50% - the past few days however I've had 12 in a row accepted; but the curious way in which the ratio seems to work (it's a conspiracy!) has ensured that I remain at that figure. I was at one time working towards a 90% ratio but every time I got to 88% something would go wrong (another conspiracy!).....

Karl


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

Quoting Bottie (Reply 2):
The day I care about it, I'll start uploading no-risk shots Wink

bingo...could not have said it better....

V.


User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4761 times:

Who cares about all the statistics anyway?

I just like taking pictures of airplanes ...

[Edited 2010-04-13 16:57:50]


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4758 times:

Quoting Bottie (Reply 2):
The day I care about it, I'll start uploading no-risk shots

The site abandoned thier policy of rewarding photogs who upload quality pics so every shot you upload is a no-risk shot.


User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1743 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4603 times:
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Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 16):
The site abandoned thier policy of rewarding photogs who upload quality pics so every shot you upload is a no-risk shot.

Nick,

The way I look at it is that the visitors, viewers, and fellow photographers are the ones who reward quality photos and photographers, not the screeners.

But that's just me.



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User currently onlinederekf From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 910 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4414 times:

Just as well it doesn't matter to me. 20 uploads, 20 rejections. It isn't quite an all-time low but near enough. 

I think the probelm is a gap in uploading. These would have been accepted a year ago (probably) but because I haven't had any rejections to gauge my editing skills (??) then the bar must have been raised in the meantime.

I must try harder - Oh wait that's what I just did - Oh well.....   



Whatever.......
User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1657 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

I still enjoy seeing my acceptance rate, particularly since it's at an all-time high just now. I'm usually a 60%-70% player, but I hit 94% a few weeks ago and after a few rejects, am still at 90%, boosted by a number of side-on, easy-to-get overhead shots I uploaded. We'll see how long that lasts.

User currently offlinebaldursveins From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 115 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

To quote the upload page:

Based on your 50 most recently screened photos: Accepted: 45 Rejected: 5
Acceptance Ratio: 90%

One of the reasons the ratio will sonetimes stay still for a long time is this. Lets say you got a ratio of 100%, which means that all your last 50 uploads got in. Then you get 10 rejects in a row. Your ratio drops to 80% (40 right out of 50). Even if your next 40 are all accepted, the ratio will stay at 80% untill all those 10 drop out ot the last 50. At least this is the way It must work.

Baldur


User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4346 times:

Since I haven't uploaded any photos in over a year, no... not really.


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User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4241 times:

Is there any more details on how the ratio works. For instance, 40 accepted, 10 rejected based on last 50 equals 80% ratio. However, I just had another image accepted, so shouldn't that be 41 accepted, 9 rejected and 82%?

Maybe it doesn't update right away, or more likely - I'm not understanding the logic right.

[Edited 2010-04-28 05:58:33]

User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4233 times:

Quoting cpd (Reply 22):
so shouldn't that be 41 accepted, 9 rejected and 82%?

Not necessarily. If your latest acceptance replaced a previous acceptance, the figures would stay at 40 accepted, 10 rejected.

If your latest acceptance replaced a previous rejection, the figures would change to 41/9 and your acceptance ratio would increase by 2%.



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User currently onlineThomasWarloe From Norway, joined Jul 2008, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4231 times:

Quoting cpd (Reply 22):
Maybe it doesn't update right away, or more likely - I'm not understanding the logic right.

Well, I think it works this way. Say i begin to upload to a.net, and get 10 rejections in a row and then 40 acceptances. Highly unlikely, but lets just say that. But when I get my next rejection (photo upload #51), then my acceptance ratio stays at 80%. Why? Because the acceptance ratio only counts for the last 50 pictures. So, in reality, the first of the ten rejections dissapeared, and was replaced by another rejection, so my overall acceptance ratio did not change. In your case, you probably replaced an acceptance with an acceptance, so your ratio did not change either.

-Thomas



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25 dendrobatid : I was asked a long tme ago how the system worked and I explained it like this :- If you imagine a tube containing 50 discs so that one drops out of th
26 Post contains images cpd : Understood now. Argh - that 100% is going to take a long time to achieve.
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