condor981 From Costa Rica, joined Mar 2010, 9 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
Hello, I am having difficulty understanding some key technical concepts regarding lenses and apertures. I own a Canon lens EF- S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS. I was trying to understand if the autofocus will work on this lens if I attach a 2x II Canon extender magnifying accesory. On the Canon site it says it will provide autofocus if:
"With the EF 2x II, AF is possible with any EOS body if the lens has an f/2.8 or faster maximum aperture, and compatible Image Stabilization lenses maintain the IS feature when used with any current EOS camera. "
Can someone tell me if AF will work on my lens at all focal lengths if I get the 2x extender?
JRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4791 posts, RR: 47
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2546 times:
Besides the autofocus point, as far as I know the extender doesn't even fit on that lens. Another point is that you really don't want a marginal lens such as the 18-200 on a marginal extender like the 2x.....
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Aviopic From Netherlands, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 38
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2522 times:
All Canon bodies apart from the 1D series require at least F5.6 for AF to work(F7.1 for a 1D) thus to retain AF with a 2.0 TC a F2.8 lens is needed or a F4.0 for a 1.4 TC.
This is not a technical limitation though but just decided by Canon for you who burned this limitation into the bodies operating software.
Tape the outer 2 contacts and you'll be fine although I personally wouldn't put a 2.0 TC inbetween body and a 18-200.
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JohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1407 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2509 times:
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Quoting JRadier (Reply 5): Besides the autofocus point, as far as I know the extender doesn't even fit on that lens
That's correct, it will noy physically fit as part of the extender actually goes inside the lens. You can use a 3rd party extender on many lenses that can't take the Canon extender but then you will lose even more in quality. You'd be better off getting a 70-300IS which is not that much more money wise than an extender, and it has IS.
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condor981 From Costa Rica, joined Mar 2010, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2436 times:
Thanks a lot guys who responded. I will definetely not get the extender. I will most probably invest in a new lens, most probably the EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM. I have read great reviews about it. I am still trying to have my first picture accepted in this site, and I have to admit, its not easy at all!
JakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2403 times:
Quoting condor981 (Reply 8): Thanks a lot guys who responded. I will definetely not get the extender. I will most probably invest in a new lens, most probably the EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM. I have read great reviews about it. I am still trying to have my first picture accepted in this site, and I have to admit, its not easy at all
Just remember, buying great lenses won't suddenly make your pictures ten times better. In fact, with a complex lens such as the 100-400L you may actually get disappointing results initially until you learn how to handle a long zoom. I recently bought Sigma's 100-300 F4 EX IF lens and although optically fantastic it took a few shoots to learn its strong and weak points. I still haven't quite mastered it yet and I have over 20 years experience behind me!
As for extenders, the general concensus is that you should steer clear of the 2x completely, as the drop in quality is just too steep. There are conflicting reports concerning the 1.4x - most agree however that the loss in quality is hardly noticeable unless you 'pixel-peep'. I guess it depends on how sharp your copy of the lens is and indeed how good a copy of the extender you've ended up with.
It's perhaps irrelevant anyway as I'm fairly sure neither extender is compatible with your lens. On a final note, I don't really know what the big deal is with losing AF - it's not like anyone is forcing you to use an extender. With the new manual focus modes available on the newer bodies manual can actually be more accurate!