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Are Monochrome Images Allowed?  
User currently offlineSpiderguy252 From India, joined Feb 2009, 280 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3046 times:


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Just saw this in the Top Rated section. Am curious to know what the rules are regarding shooting in black & white? Especially regarding modern day shots (This was taken in '07).

Basically, can a photographer submit any worthy photo even if it is not in colour?

Cheers!


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User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2071 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3033 times:
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It's been some time since this has been discussed (and I can't find the thread anymore) but if I remember well, monochrome photos are only allowed if it makes sense in order to give an impression of old age; in this case the aircraft pictured must be a classic or warbird.
OR monochrome is also allowed if it falls under the creative rule, like Tim's photo pictured above.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thierry



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User currently offlineSpiderguy252 From India, joined Feb 2009, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3001 times:

I was just wondering about Tim's shot.....would it have been a motive rejection if it was in colour?


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User currently offlineviv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Black and white photos of vintage aircraft are allowed - I uploaded this a few days ago.

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I have never tried uploading a B/W 'creative' shot.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2825 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 1):
monochrome photos are only allowed if it makes sense in order to give an impression of old age

I would guess that the one below perfectly applies:


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User currently offlinedendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1668 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2824 times:
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The general rule is that black and white images are acceptable if taken in black and white and with an appropriate subject.
So, for instance a DC-3 may be appropriate but if it has a backdrop of an A-380 it is unlikely to be.

If an image works well creatively in black and white it may be considered and the shot above of Tim's is one which demonstrates that well. The subject is not appropriate but the treatment is, totally, and it remains one of my favourite photos on the site.

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineAlberto Riva From United States of America, joined May 2002, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2680 times:

Quoting dendrobatid (Reply 5):
If an image works well creatively in black and white it may be considered and the shot above of Tim's is one which demonstrates that well. The subject is not appropriate but the treatment is, totally, and it remains one of my favourite photos on the site.

Couldn't say it better.

The advice I would add -- not just for black and white but often for photography in general -- is: Think like a photo editor. Think like you're selecting photos for a magazine or a newspaper story. In the case of Tobias' LH 321 shot, you could totally imagine the photo running under a headline that says something like, "Lufthansa Brings Back The 1950s for a Day". The black and white is pertinent in that retro / nostalgic context.

As Mick notes, Tim's shot is black and white for purely artistic reasons, and once again, if I were a photo editor I would totally run it in B&W; it fits the essential, design-y feeling of the image. Pure form stripped of color, yet also conveying emotion. Imagine it in color: it would be a pretty unexceptional shot. And quite possibly a rejection for dark on this site  

In other words, Don't do something cool because Photoshop lets you do it. Do it because you could explain convincingly to a hypothetical photo editor, from a creative point of view, why you think that shot should be the way you decided.

[Edited 2010-05-06 07:05:53]

User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

Just got one in...


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Thanks to everyone for the advance help in the feedback section - and for this thread, that delivered the inspiration for uploading that shot.  


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 7):
Just got one in...

Beautiful, moody shot. It looks great in B-W!

Tony



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User currently offlinestevemchey From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

Man, what a beauty...

User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2289 times:

Thank you, gentlemen  

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