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What Photo Software Should I Buy?  
User currently offlineDKphotos From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 1 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4742 times:

My default photo editing software on my computer isnt sufficient to adjust photo size and compression and really screws up the shot when I reduce the size. I have been putting off purchasing any software for a while but having my shot declined finally made the decision for me.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2934 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4729 times:

You'll not go far wrong with Adobe Photoshop Elements. It'll do the majority of things you'll want to do with your photos, and a whole lot more.

Darren



Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
User currently offlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4705 times:

Quoting dazbo5 (Reply 1):
You'll not go far wrong

What he said!

Elements is great.



Slower traffic, keep right
User currently offlinediezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4686 times:

If you are on an Apple, you should consider Aperture.

Roel.



Never be afraid of what you like. (Miles Davis)
User currently offlineDAMIEN846 From UK - England, joined Dec 2006, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4679 times:

Been using Elements for 4 plus years now......started on 5 and now have just updated to 8. should be all you need for spotting editing.....?

User currently offlinepilotalltheway From United Kingdom, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4677 times:

Or if you want to take the cheap route; the very cheap route (FREE) you could just have a look at paint.net:

http://www.getpaint.net/

Good luck!

-Alfie



Dude - where's my plane?
User currently offlinepilotealpha From Mauritius, joined Mar 2007, 133 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4672 times:

I released a free photo editor and organizer a few days ago. You can try it if you want. Download : www.kestrelfly.com/download/

Regards,
Krishley.G.D.Purmanun



The way I see it, you can either work for a living or you can fly airplanes. Me, I'd rather fly.
User currently offlineGPHOTO From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 833 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4672 times:
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Photoshop Elements gets my vote.

I'm still using version 3.0 (with a 'Curves' plug-in, about the only essential tool missing out of the box).

You can pick up cheap copies of older versions of elements on eBay if you are on a budget, though version 3.0 does not work on Vista, so do your homework on compatibility.

Best regards,

Jim



Erm, is this thing on?
User currently offlinevirgin777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4631 times:

One question , do these versions of Elements support Canon RAW ?
just curious...


cheers


User currently offlineiamlucky13 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4627 times:

Of course, GIMP has to be mentioned. It's not quite as slick or fully featured as Photoshop, but it's free and has most of Photoshops most powerful features.

http://www.gimp.org/

However, it's at least as hard to learn how to use as Photoshop, so if you give it a try, recognize you'll spend a fair amount of time learning it. If you want ease, Photoshop Elements is probably worth the slight cost. I've heard good things about paint.net, too.

I also took a brief look at Pilotalpha's program...it looks like it could be a decent option for basic operations, but I haven't taken the time yet to install it and try it out.


User currently offlinejwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4557 times:

For RAW conversion, Bibble Pro (http://www.bibblelabs.com) does a far better job than does the Adobe converter.
It also does quite a lot of post processing, and does it well.



I wish I were flying
User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5746 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4530 times:
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Quoting GPHOTO (Reply 7):
with a 'Curves' plug-in, about the only essential tool missing out of the box

That's about all I need!!
Does anyone know if there is one for Elements 8/9?

Cheers

[Edited 2010-11-17 12:15:40]


If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
User currently offlineGPHOTO From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 833 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4478 times:
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Quoting stealthz (Reply 11):
That's about all I need!!
Does anyone know if there is one for Elements 8/9?

Elements 6 was the first version to have curves out of the box. I would assume it has stayed in the later versions, but don't know.

For users of Elements 5 or earlier, curves functionality can be added thanks to this page:

http://www.earthboundlight.com/photo...ips/photoshop-elements-curves.html

And if you need to know what curves are and why you should at least give them a go, this next page is a very good brief introduction with mouse-over examples:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/photoshop-curves.htm

Just remember, with power, comes responsibility. Curves can be a very powerful tool for image editing, but can very easily be overdone.

Best regards,

Jim



Erm, is this thing on?
User currently offlineDJdeRidder From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4469 times:

I switched from Photoshop to Lightroom in 2007, and I hardly ever use any other software.

Besides powerful image editing controls, it has many more functions. Here's a short introduction, so you can see what it looks like and what you can do with it as an aviation photographer:
http://www.milaviapress.com/lightroom/index.php


User currently offlinejohnmiller From South Africa, joined Mar 2006, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4448 times:

My advice is for better or worse, stick to Elements. It's a standard, which means tutorials are everywhere, including photography magazines and it's easy to get advice from others using it.

User currently offlineStealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5746 posts, RR: 44
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 4441 times:
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Quoting GPHOTO (Reply 12):
Elements 6 was the first version to have curves out of the box. I would assume it has stayed in the later versions, but don't know.

Thanks Jim,
I was so conditioned to not having curves avail I never looked when I upgraded to PSE8 then 9!

For those cosidering the product, I feel that the CSx range offer little to the photographer over Elements, sure the Graphics artist and Illustrator gains alot but there is lttle that cannot be done in Elements from a photographic point of view.*


Cheers

* This is my opinion and am sure many will disagree.



If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
User currently onlinespencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4432 times:

Quoting Stealthz (Reply 15):
For those cosidering the product, I feel that the CSx range offer little to the photographer over Elements

I haven't tried Elements so I won't comment but CS5 is mind-blowing, seriously!!
Spence.



EOS1D4, 7D, 30D, 100-400/4.5-5.6 L IS USM, 70-200/2.8 L IS2 USM, 17-40 f4 L USM, 24-105 f4 L IS USM, 85 f1.8 USM
User currently offlinederekf From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 914 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 4423 times:

I do my basic RAW conversion in Capture One then editing in Paint Shop Pro. I'm currently using X2 but I think it is at version X3 now. Used it since it was free-ware at about Version 4.

Decent software and good value too.



Whatever.......
User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4881 posts, RR: 37
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4417 times:

Quoting spencer (Reply 16):
but CS5 is mind-blowing, seriously!!

Yes, the price is also seriously mind-blowing - unless you've got a nice arrangement with Adobe.

Still, elements can manage this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIJ5_ggmbGk

As a side note, I installed CS5 Master Collection on my old iMac with 1gb ram. It actually worked no problem on this 2.4ghz machine. Albeit slowly. I updated it to 4gb ram and CS5 works beautifully.   So with my PC woes, I'm doing all my editing on the Mac. With all the talk of curves, it's the one tool I've not needed to use in my photo editing.

Photoshop is always the best bet since it is industry standard software - everyone uses it, so there is a massive amount of expertise for it and lots of help available. The latest version of the Camera Raw plugin does a superb job of noise-reduction as well (included with CS5). I don't know if Elements gets the same upgrades however.

now as for Aperture, it's not worth the bother. It's not really a specific editing program, it's more about managing photos and basic tweaks from my experience with it. It's not like Photoshop. So in any case where you need to do more specific and specialised editing, it's hard to do that in Aperture.

[Edited 2010-11-18 18:07:53]

[Edited 2010-11-18 18:10:02]

[Edited 2010-11-18 18:11:31]

User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 585 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4406 times:

Lightroom is my other half! I love that piece of software...


Gripped 7D + Sigma 10-20mm + 17-40L + 50mm f/1.8 II + 70-200mm f/4L IS + EF 400mm f/5.6L + 580EX II
User currently offlineDehowie From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 1071 posts, RR: 33
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4333 times:

Easy Lightroom 3.
Has the latest gen Adobe RAW processing software which is quite a step up from the previous generation.
Considerably better than Aperture at noise reduction etc and yes i have used both.
Aperture i think has better catalogue functionality but as a processor Lightroom wins hands down.
I use CS5 but to anyone starting out will highly recommend LR3 as pretty much the best place to start and use it quite a bit in conjunction with CS5.



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User currently offlineSIA6696 From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4323 times:

If you can afford it, go for CS5, if not stick with Elements. Adobe programs are one of the bast out there.


The best seat in a plane is the one you are in.
User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 585 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4288 times:

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 20):
Aperture i think has better catalogue functionality

Darren, could you expand on that, please?



Gripped 7D + Sigma 10-20mm + 17-40L + 50mm f/1.8 II + 70-200mm f/4L IS + EF 400mm f/5.6L + 580EX II
User currently offlineDehowie From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 1071 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4252 times:

Hi Nic
From my experience i found Aperture easier to import photos and assign personal tags etc than in LR3.
One of the major changes in LR3 was making the import process more clear as to where pics where going etc but i still think Aperture does a better job providing you with more options and somewhat easier at least to me.
I like to rename files on import and its so easy with Aperture to say rename each pic ITAMI DAY1 etc so searching for files for me is easier.
However the steps forward Adobe made with the RAW conversion software in CS5/LR3 really have them a step ahead at the moment. Particularly the handling of noise/grain at hi ISO's has me using them exclusively.
Cheers



2EOS1DX,EF14.2.8LII,17TS,85/1.2,16-35L,24-70LII,24L,70-200F2.8LII,100-400,300/400/500/800L
User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 585 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4216 times:

Quoting Dehowie (Reply 23):
Hi Nic
From my experience i found Aperture easier to import photos and assign personal tags etc than in LR3.
One of the major changes in LR3 was making the import process more clear as to where pics where going etc but i still think Aperture does a better job providing you with more options and somewhat easier at least to me.
I like to rename files on import and its so easy with Aperture to say rename each pic ITAMI DAY1 etc so searching for files for me is easier.
However the steps forward Adobe made with the RAW conversion software in CS5/LR3 really have them a step ahead at the moment. Particularly the handling of noise/grain at hi ISO's has me using them exclusively.
Cheers

Thank you Darren!



Gripped 7D + Sigma 10-20mm + 17-40L + 50mm f/1.8 II + 70-200mm f/4L IS + EF 400mm f/5.6L + 580EX II
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