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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5669 posts, RR: 45
Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3678 times:
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I guess not the question for this forum with it's extreme and understandable bias towards DSLR equipment but here goes.
What are the members opinions on a good P&S camera as an every day carry camera. As CPD mentioned in another thread, he would carry a camera if his DSLRs were not so heavy, I happen to agree(we share a similar commute!). I have been carrying my trusty Canon G1 but it has seen better days. (It was state of the art and damn expensive back in in 2001)
The decision process is leaning towards a Canon G11/12 but may look at something like a Nokia N8 and skip the camera carrying altogether....that may be too great of step to take though.

So there it is.. your thoughts on an every day camera...

Cheers

Chris


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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6394 posts, RR: 39
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

Quoting stealthz (Thread starter):
he decision process is leaning towards a Canon G11/12 but may look at something like a Nokia N8 and skip the camera carrying altogether....that may be too great of step to take though.So there it is.. your thoughts on an every day camera...

There's quite a big difference between cameras on phones and something like a G11/12. It all comes down to what you want or think - say if you like pictures taken on an N8 and would be satisfied with that, then do that. The G11/12 would certainly provide much better photos than the N8 though as you'd guess. So think about how much you use the camera and if you make shots worthy for use that require better quality than what you'd get from a phone camera (think about night time too).



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User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

The Canon is the popular choice for most people. However...

Nikon has Coolpix P7000 that seems pretty good - I was looking at it yesterday in the 12/10 issue of Nikon Pro magazine that is sent out to me. You can use it with Nikon Speedlites (i-TTL) and the ML-L3 remote control.

Sample images:
http://imaging.nikon.com/products/im...olpix/performance/p7000/sample.htm

Has a 28-200mm lens built in (VR), 10.2mp and goes up to ISO3200.

Quoting stealthz (Thread starter):
As CPD mentioned in another thread, he would carry a camera if his DSLRs were not so heavy, I happen to agree(we share a similar commute!).

Won't fit in my bag actually.  Wink

[Edited 2010-12-04 03:03:09]

User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2856 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

I can warmly recommend the S95 (S90 is similar), it's basically a G11 in pocket size. It shoots RAW too.

Compared here to P7000 and a Lumix:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/q42010highendcompactgroup/



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User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 730 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

IMHO, micro 3/4 is the answer. Fits in a pocket (well, depending on model and lens) and produces quality comparable to cropped DSLRs.

Perhaps a bit pricey compared to digicams, but for me micro 3/4 provides portability while retaining publication quality.

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlinespencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3549 times:

I've had my G9 for several years now and am really happy with it. A friend of mine upgraded to the G11 from the G9 and really wasn't impressed. If I was to upgrade, however, I'd go for the S95. If for nothing else, it really is pocket-sized! Forget phonecams.
I have a fair few G9 images here on this site, mostly use it for my window shots. I did get a few of some static stuff taxying out at MNL though. It isn't quite there when you compare IQ against the DSLRs but it's pretty close for 1024 crops.
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User currently offlineChukcha From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 1976 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3507 times:
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Quoting stealthz (Thread starter):
The decision process is leaning towards a Canon G11/12 but may look at something like a Nokia N8 and skip the camera carrying altogether....

There is a world of difference between a Canon G11 or G12 and a Nokia N8. No matter how advanced a mobile phone camera is, the images will never come close in quality to those from a "top end" P&S.

In the end, it all comes down to the size, not the size in mega-pixels, but the physical size of the sensor and the lens. The tiny lens of a Nokia will never produce images comparable in quality to that of a Canon G11.

On the other hand, it all depends on what what you want to use the images for. Using some advanced noise reduction and sharpening techniques, some of the better images taken on a mobile phone could even be accepted here; but for the most of them it would be a really "long shot".

[Edited 2010-12-05 17:42:05]

User currently offlineiamlucky13 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3454 times:

I'll add another vote for the Canon S90 or S95 if I were buying today.

I'm sure if someone wanted to do side-by-side lens sharpness tests, the G11 would come out very slightly ahead, but the S90 is definitely smaller, has the same sensor, and the same level of manual control allowed. Also, the Nikon P7000 looks like a solid competitor to the G12, although I've personally stuck with Canon's on the P&S side.

I'm still using my three year old Canon SD800 as my carry-around camera. It does have noticeably more limited sharpness, ISO, and dynamic range than my SLR or even the samples I've seen from the S90 or G11, but it's definitely a good compromise. Much better than most comparably sized compacts, and slightly smaller than even the S90

I think the closest model currently in Canon's lineup is the SD4000, which is even smaller than my SD800 and costs less.


User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5669 posts, RR: 45
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3378 times:
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Thanks all for your input.

I pretty much agree with all of your comments.
Whilst accepting that even from an advanced phone like the Nokia N8(some reviewers have said it would be more appropriately marketed as a quality compact camera that can make phone calls rather than as a phone with built in camera) images will not match some of the quality products from Canon, Nikon and others there is one quality that defines the best camera in the world.. the one you have in your hand, that fact alone brings the Nokia into play, the fanciestcamera around will not capture the great images if it is in the cupboard at home.
Having said that I will likely go with a Canon G10/11/12(financial situation will dictate that choice) based on a combination of "camera like" features* including the ability to use my Canon flashes

Cheers

* The exact reason I bought the G1 all those years ago!



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