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Photography At MIA And FLL With 27s In Use?  
User currently offlineGVerbeeck From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 245 posts, RR: 24
Posted (4 years 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7337 times:

Hi guys,

Title says it all... Anybody knows some good vantage points for photography in MIA or FLL with reverse ops, i.e. runways 27 (and 30 in MIA) in use, where it is ok to take photographs without getting hassled by police/security? I'm aware of El Dorado and the holes in MIA but with westernly winds, these spots are pretty useless.

Thanks and take care,
Giovanni

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User currently offlinewhisperjet From Germany, joined Nov 2007, 571 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 weeks ago) and read 7317 times:
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For RWY 27 use in FLL you can use the parking garage right behind the terminals. The view is quite good and you can shoot taxiing as well as approaching aircrafts. During my stay it was mostly RWY 9 use so that I used the car park for a short time only and can't tell about the police/security situation. I suggest to behave discrete and take a rental car up there. I also tried a position on the other side but got send away by the airport security.

Hope this helps
Stefan



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User currently offlineeksath From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1317 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7297 times:
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FLL = Top of the "Hibiscus" parking garage is approved and officially sanctioned photo location. There are signs to that effect. You can spend the whole day up there without getting disturbed.
MIA = No official location. People use the parking lot the Aero Squadron Restaurant for 27/30. The railroad tracks for 30 will most likely get a visit from the police.



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User currently offlineGVerbeeck From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 245 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7237 times:

Thanks for your replies!

User currently offlinesaintex From Canada, joined Apr 2009, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7211 times:

If you have a big lens (400-500) there is a park off NW 7th St. called Antonio Maceo Park. Walk to the lakefront and you can shoot 27L and 30 arrivals. The airplanes are a bit higher than my taste and the 30 traffic tends to 'sneak' up on you without a scanner.

Only as an alternative if there is a 'purge' going on at 94th Squadron lot.


User currently offlinedarreno1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7035 times:

Plug these coordinates into Google Maps: 25.802243,-80.264024. That's the parking lot I use when they're coming in from the east on 26L and R. It's empty on the weekends and the guard that's on duty has never hassled me. Just be sure to make your intentions known my displaying your camera.


I recently tried this location (25.78377,-80.308127) and found it to be good for take off shots from 27. One of the pics on this site was from there.

For 30 this location seems to be promising but I've never been there so I can't say. I'll have to try it : 25.781839,-80.272073



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User currently offlinesaintex From Canada, joined Apr 2009, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6999 times:

Quoting darreno1 (Reply 5):
For 30 this location seems to be promising but I've never been there so I can't say. I'll have to try it : 25.781839,-80.272073

I tried that and found the airplanes to be too high for my tastes. It's also difficult to find a parking spot and you're in full view of a bunch of apartments which might cause concern these days   . Antonio Maceo park, which I mentioned above, is a couple of blocks further W. and needs a longer lens, but likely less of a hassle factor.

Neither spot is ideal.


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6608 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6880 times:

Quoting saintex (Reply 6):
Quoting darreno1 (Reply 5):
For 30 this location seems to be promising but I've never been there so I can't say. I'll have to try it : 25.781839,-80.272073

I tried that and found the airplanes to be too high for my tastes. It's also difficult to find a parking spot and you're in full view of a bunch of apartments which might cause concern these days

Are you talking about here?:

Perimeter road, turn south, go to NW 7th st, then turn left on NW 47th ave, it ends in a cul-de-sac. That's where I got these. I think it's better if you not go alone.

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Takeoffs on runway 27, get a 4 hour rental at the Executive Motel on perimeter road and just walk out to the entrance.

I am going down in a feww weeks and will try to stay at the Hyatt on Blue Lagoon Dr. That should be a nice view for runway 30. If anyone wants to join me, hit me up!

And for 26L and 26R departures, you could drive past the holes until the road ends. I don't think they would be too high. I would only stay for 15 minutes though.


FLL, you might try the cell phone lot. for 27R landings.

Quoting saintex (Reply 4):
and the 30 traffic tends to 'sneak' up on you without a scanner.

Very true, unless you here something departing 27, always have that camera up and ready. I disagree about them being too high though, but you will need a big lens.

Despite what a lot of people tend to think, westerly ops at MIA is NOT a deterrent for photography/spotting/fun.  



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User currently offlinedarreno1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6866 times:

Looks like that cul-de-sac is a good spot for 30 judging from your photos 727lover. I'm going to have to try it. I know that executive motel and have thought about just sitting at the entrance once or twice but never tried. The spot I mentioned above (check the coordinates) just west of that motel is pretty good though. I got some great take off shots there:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/TACA/Airbus-A319-132/1829863/L/

[Edited 2010-12-17 15:55:10]


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User currently offlinesaintex From Canada, joined Apr 2009, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6853 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 7):
Are you talking about here?:

Perimeter road, turn south, go to NW 7th st, then turn left on NW 47th ave, it ends in a cul-de-sac. That's where I got these. I think it's better if you not go alone.

Yes, that's the spot. I didn't feel comfortable there, had to park a ways back and had to keep looking back to check the car.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 7):
I disagree about them being too high though, but you will need a big lens.

Personal preferences differ.


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6608 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (4 years 16 hours ago) and read 6790 times:

I'm curious as to where these were taken. Some are 30, some are 27. Hyatt, perhaps? Maybe the 836?



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User currently offlinemarky From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 12 hours ago) and read 6767 times:



Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 10):
I'm curious as to where these were taken. Some are 30, some are 27. Hyatt, perhaps? Maybe the 836?

I wondered the same thing a little while back - apparently the Hilton Hotel

http://www1.hilton.com/en_US/hi/hote...ton-Miami-Airport-Florida/index.do

[Edited 2010-12-19 13:09:41]

User currently offlinedarreno1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 hours ago) and read 6752 times:

Yeah many of those are from a height so most likely they're from one of the hotels accross the lake.


Today I tried the cul-de-sac location referenced several posts above and it turned out to be a great spot. They weren't too high and my 70-300mm was more than adequate. Even a 200 will work there. I also tried the Executive Motel entrance but was only able to stay an hour before a nice friendly cop came by and asked us to leave, lol. He was a cool guy though and knew what we were doing, even suggested some other spots (which we knew about already). He said most likely the motel called and complained. I wasn't too unhappy considering I was able to get some great shots.

[Edited 2010-12-19 15:22:37]


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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6608 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (3 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6663 times:

Quoting darreno1 (Reply 12):
He said most likely the motel called and complained.

That's why I said earlier, get a 4-hour rental. Cops can't kick you off private property if you are a hotel guest. Anyway, like I said earlier, I'll be down probably the week bewtween Christmas and New Years. I expect to have a lot of fun.



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User currently offlinesaintex From Canada, joined Apr 2009, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6657 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 13):
That's why I said earlier, get a 4-hour rental.

I think one hour rentals are more usual there.   


User currently offlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 12 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6653 times:

Has anyone been near the old Turtle Pond spot from back in the 80s ? It's about midpoint down runway 30 just northwest of cargo city and was ideal for landing ground shots. Last I checked, you can still access it by continuing past the customs building and the grassy spot for 12. Seems like it's been hit and miss with being hassled by the airport guys and Metro Dade in recent years.


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User currently offlinedarreno1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 12 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6652 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 13):
That's why I said earlier, get a 4-hour rental. Cops can't kick you off private property if you are a hotel guest. Anyway, like I said earlier, I'll be down probably the week bewtween Christmas and New Years. I expect to have a lot of fun.

Haha, yes, maybe one day I'll do it but I'm still exploring all the areas around the airport and there's still that construction site entrance : 25.78377,-80.308127 that gets about the same view as the motel at ground level. Right now my friend and I are actively tallying up all the good spots (where there are no hassles) after which I'll post a map with all of them.

I won't be in town that Christmas week but will be looking forward to seeing some of the runway shots from higher up assuming you'll get a rental in the upper floors.

[Edited 2010-12-20 17:09:42]


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User currently offlinedarreno1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6645 times:

Quoting Falcon Flyer (Reply 15):
Has anyone been near the old Turtle Pond spot from back in the 80s ? It's about midpoint down runway 30 just northwest of cargo city and was ideal for landing ground shots. Last I checked, you can still access it by continuing past the customs building and the grassy spot for 12. Seems like it's been hit and miss with being hassled by the airport guys and Metro Dade in recent years.

I don't think you can get that far right now (assuming I'm following you correctly). It's all fenced or blocked off. There is an area right at the beginning of 12 (where it almost intersects with 8r) called 'the holes' where photography is allowed: 25.797235,-80.301561. It's basically just holes cut into the fences for you to stick your lens through. No ladders are allowed. I've used it a few times but almost always run into really bad heat haze so I avoid it as much as possible. It is a great spot for landings and taxi shots though but not as good as El Dorado IMO.



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User currently offlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6581 times:

Quoting darreno1 (Reply 17):
I don't think you can get that far right now (assuming I'm following you correctly). It's all fenced or blocked off. There is an area right at the beginning of 12 (where it almost intersects with 8r) called 'the holes' where photography is allowed: 25.797235,-80.301561. It's basically just holes cut into the fences for you to stick your lens through. No ladders are allowed. I've used it a few times but almost always run into really bad heat haze so I avoid it as much as possible. It is a great spot for landings and taxi shots though but not as good as El Dorado IMO.

Thanks. Things have really changed since the 80s and 90s. We really had it good back then.



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User currently offlinebraniffthebest From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6545 times:

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