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Got My Body And Lens - Now...  
User currently offlinepilotalltheway From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 247 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4212 times:

Yup, as I said - I have now got my 50D and a lovely 70-200 f/4L! Now I need to get a good bag for no more than around £40 and some good CF cards. Ultra? Extreme? 4 x 2GB? 2 x 4GB? 1 x 8GB?

I just need to know what you guy recommend because these two pieces of equipment are crucial!

Cheers,

-Alfie

[Edited 2010-12-16 04:14:44]


Dude - where's my plane?
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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 days ago) and read 4187 times:

Alfie,

Glad you went with the L. You won't regret it!

The bag isn't too important, as long as it protects your stuff. I'd get perhaps a couple of 2gb cards, or a single 4gb. Don't go with a huge 8gb as cards can get corrupted and with this in mind it's better to have a few smaller ones.

Karl


User currently offlineLGW340 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 1):
I'd get perhaps a couple of 2gb cards, or a single 4gb. Don't go with a huge 8gb as cards can get corrupted and with this in mind it's better to have a few smaller ones.

         Couldn't agree more!

If your after a good bag, I would highly recommend the Lowepro Fastpack 250. I use it and it fits that camera/lens combo perfectly with room for more. The top half is empty for general use and it is perfect hand luggage size. Its a very good price too

Best Regards,

C J Goodwin



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User currently offlinecalibansa333 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4067 times:

Quoting LGW340 (Reply 2):
I would highly recommend the Lowepro Fastpack 250.

I would have to agree with that. I purchased a Fastpack 250 about a month ago and I'm psyched with it. Fits my XSi, 18-55mm, 55-250mm, hard drive, computer, filters and a lot more. I'm extremely happy with it.

Enjoy your L series lens, that should be a dream to shoot with!

As for cards, personally I'd go with the 2x 4gb combo. Your files will be pretty big shooting with the 50D (I get just over 200 shots with my XSi set to RAW and a 4gb card) especially if you shoot in RAW. You'll want as much space as you can get if you'll be snapping wildly at a busy airport  


User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4053 times:

Just to add something further.....

Ultra cards are fine. Extreme are nice but the 50D is more than quick enough for slower cards.

Send me some images (if you get out to LHR this weekend) if you like and I'll let you know if they're as sharp as they should be.

Karl


User currently offlinedendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1689 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3988 times:
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Alfie
As you are UK based, have a look at 7dayshop.com for cards.
No VAT as they come from Jersey and they are much cheaper than buying anywhere else.
I mainly use 4G ones
Unbranded batteries are good there too

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlinechris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2822 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3986 times:

I find 2GB and even 4GB cards are way too small these days when shooting RAW files. If you plan to only shoot Jpegs then you would be ok with a 4GB i imagine.

It's worth bearing in mind that cards these days are very very reliable. I've been shooting for 9 years and i've only ever had one CF card go wrong and despite this the data was still readable. I've had cards go through the washing machine that still work perfectly.

Obviously yes having smaller cards will spread the risk of failure but it also increases the risk of loss of a card and as you end up changing cards regularly you do end up exposing the card to more dust/dirt/handling/rain/wind/etc than it would have if it stayed in your camera for the entire shoot.

I personally use a mixture of 16GB and 8GB for most my shooting and this is supplemented by all my older 4GB cards that are used when the others fill up on longer trips.

Ultra cards should be fine but if you plan to be abusing your buffer on the 50D then i would recommend Extreme cards if not the Pro cards. Shooting at the full fps in RAW on my cameras i did find using ultra cards the restricting factor when trying to dump the pics to the card. I now use only Extreme III's with my next cards probably going to be Pro's. The cost difference is so negligible these days that it's worth spending the extra few quid to future proof yourself now.



5D2/7D/1D2(soon to be a 1Dx) 17-40L/24-105L/70-200F2.8L/100-400L/24F1.4LII/50F1.2L/85F1.2LII
User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 days ago) and read 3968 times:

Quoting chris78cpr (Reply 6):
I've had cards go through the washing machine that still work perfectly

Hopefully not intentionally? Did the card have some ground in dirt?  

7 Day Shop is about the best, as Mick says - I bought a 4gb Extreme from them for £13.98! I still maintain that Ultra cards are fine, however I don't tend to use my 50D's 6fps (or whatever it is) burst. I find recomposing the shot and firing again independently a better and more reliable option than just letting fire with the shutter while trying to track the subject. The novelty of a fast fps I think wears off as you become more experienced with a camera.

Still, if you are going to shoot continuously in RAW the Extreme series is worth considering. Having said that I can get a good 5-7 consecutice RAW frames out of my 50D before it starts to use the buffer.

Karl


User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2934 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3933 times:

I use a SanDisk Extreme III 8Gb on the 50D and it's perfectly fine and fast enough regardless of whether you're shooting JPEG or RAW, as well as an Ultra as spare. As Karl mentions, unless you're firing off multiple shots (which you soon learn isn't needed), speed isn't everything and I rarely notice a difference between the two cards. I used both cards out in Kenya last year in some of the must dusty, hot and humid conditions you can imagine and never had a single problem with them. When I swapped the Extreme to my spare (Ultra), it got shook and banged all over the place with the harsh roads (off-road). They're pretty reliable!

Darren



Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
User currently offlinepilotalltheway From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3929 times:

Thanks for the great feedback!

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 4):
Send me some images (if you get out to LHR this weekend) if you like and I'll let you know if they're as sharp as they should be.

I'd love to be out there this weekend, but thanks to the hospital - I'm now still going to be in crutches and a brace with my broken knee for another month. Ah... the joy of rugby!

I'll probably been down at T5 around Boxing Day and if I'm in luck they'll be landing on 09L and I'll go get some shots from the smoking area and if I do I'll send them to you Karl.

Quoting calibansa333 (Reply 3):
As for cards, personally I'd go with the 2x 4gb combo

That's definitely what I think I'll do.

Quoting dendrobatid (Reply 5):
As you are UK based, have a look at 7dayshop.com for cards.
No VAT as they come from Jersey and they are much cheaper than buying anywhere else.
I mainly use 4G ones
Unbranded batteries are good there too

Excellent Mick - I shall definitely bear that in mind! And I'll need some other batteries soon most likely, which are the best other than canon's?

Cheers guys,

Alfie



Dude - where's my plane?
User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3927 times:

Canon's own batteries are expensive, so like the others I'd recommend the 'Billy-no-make' ones sold by 7 Day Shop. There are rumours about them secreting damaging battery acid whilst in your camera's battery compartment but I know many people who've been using them for years without problems (myself included). Probably relates to an isolated incident, which has since been subjected to the 'Chinese whispers' treatment.

Karl


User currently offlinepilotalltheway From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3922 times:

Woohay - my lens just arrived!

Just been playing around with it - Karl I need some help.

Sometimes when I go to take a shot and focus, with the flash on - its flickers and the screen says busy, what does this mean? Also, what are the stock settings you would recommend. ISO 100, which f. stop?

Just need a few tips to get me on my way.

Cheers

Alfie



Dude - where's my plane?
User currently offlinechris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2822 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 7):
Hopefully not intentionally? Did the card have some ground in dirt?

7 Day Shop is about the best, as Mick says - I bought a 4gb Extreme from them for £13.98! I still maintain that Ultra cards are fine, however I don't tend to use my 50D's 6fps (or whatever it is) burst. I find recomposing the shot and firing again independently a better and more reliable option than just letting fire with the shutter while trying to track the subject. The novelty of a fast fps I think wears off as you become more experienced with a camera.

Still, if you are going to shoot continuously in RAW the Extreme series is worth considering. Having said that I can get a good 5-7 consecutice RAW frames out of my 50D before it starts to use the buffer.

Nah it was left in a pocket of my jeans. A good example of what I've found happens when changing cards quickly in the field. They get put somewhere quickly and forgotten about until they do the 40 deg spin dry.

For aviation it's not really worth running the buffer unless your shooting at an airshow or panning. I do however use it a lot when shooting motorsports/sports and some other bits.



5D2/7D/1D2(soon to be a 1Dx) 17-40L/24-105L/70-200F2.8L/100-400L/24F1.4LII/50F1.2L/85F1.2LII
User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2934 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

Quoting pilotalltheway (Reply 11):
Sometimes when I go to take a shot and focus, with the flash on - its flickers and the screen says busy, what does this mean? Also, what are the stock settings you would recommend. ISO 100, which f. stop?

Just need a few tips to get me on my way.

Practice, practice, practice and learn the exposure triangle. Camera settings all depends on the lighting conditions and the shot you are wanting to take. As a general rule in good light with the equipment you have, use ISO 100 or 200 in aperature priority at f/8. Once you've mastered the basics, you can start exploring with slower shutters etc but the main thing is to understand how the camera works and what the relationship between ISO, aperture and shutter speed is.

Darren



Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
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