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User currently offlinescompiani From Italy, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 5 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

Hi everybody
i'm a spotter since a couple of years ago using my brother Canon EOS 500d which continues giving me excellent results. I'm going to buy a camera for me and after some searching i found me attracted to the new EOS 1100d and the d3100 from Nikon. Both of them do very good photos and they have more or less the same (low) price. What's the best for aircraft spotting (i mean coupled with a good tele)? Otherwise is there some better choice that i could buy without spend significantly more?

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User currently offlinedarreno1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

Here's a nice place to start your research: www.dpreview.com

I use a d3100 (soon to be d7000) and will naturally be somewhat biased. But you can't go wrong with either and since your brother is already invested in Canon, if you stick with them, you can share lenses. All my pics on here were taken with the d3100 and a 70-300mm Tamron vc usd lens.



Nikon D7000 / Nikkor 105mm AF f2.8 / Nikkor 35 f1.8G / Nikkor 50 f1.8D / Nikkor 85mm / Nikkor 300mm f4 AF
User currently offlineSIA6696 From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3541 times:

I have a 500D, and the new 1100D is pretty much the same as all the other 'basic' canon bodies, minus a few megapixels. They have upgraded it to a 9 point AF, so its on par with all the others. And since your brother has a canon it will probably be good, so you can share equipment. If you can find one the 500D is going a lot cheaper, and it has better features, also will also allow you to share other stuff such as batteries.


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User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9401 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3537 times:
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Nothing wrong with the entry-level Canon cameras, if they have what you're looking for. All my photos on here are taken with the Canon 1000D. I started out with two kit lenses (the 18-55 and the 55-250). Upgraded to the mid-range 70-300 IS USM after a few months (not the 70-300L). The better/longer lens has made quite a difference, and I'm very happy with my camera for the most part. Plan on buying an L lens when I have the cash.


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User currently offlinescopedude From Indonesia, joined Oct 2010, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

If you're familiar with 500D, I suggest you to get the 550D if your budget allows. Don't get me wrong, the new 1100D is a fine camera - but has smaller viewfinder and lower res. LCD. As for the lens, you should try before buying and see which one you like. I can vote for 55-250, 70-300IS, and 70-300L (at this price you can also buy a 70-200/4 IS which is superb).

If you want to go the Nikon route, for a bit more than D3100 you can also have the new D5100. I have D7000, and they share the same sensor. The 16MP sensor has very low noise and excellent DR which is a great help in less-than-ideal lighting conditions. I currently use Tamron 70-300VC on my D7000 which is excellent for the price.

just my 0.02  



5D2, 650D, 70-200/4 IS, 70-300 L, 135 L
User currently offlinescompiani From Italy, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3500 times:

Thank you all for answering me so quickly.
Surely i'll follow your advices...but at the end in your opinion which one could give me the best image quality?
Thanks


User currently offlinescopedude From Indonesia, joined Oct 2010, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3498 times:

Image quality depends largely on the lens - and your skill. If you shoot at ISO100/200, all of the entry level cameras are more or less equal in term of image quality (pixel sharpness, noise, DR, etc.).


5D2, 650D, 70-200/4 IS, 70-300 L, 135 L
User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 713 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3490 times:

Its all down to lens for any significant difference in quality.

Good lens on entry level camera = good quality
Entry level lens on top end camera = poor quality

I think you'd need to give us an idea of how much you'd be willing to spend on a lens - $300 or $3000 (or what point in between), as there's no point in recommending lenses that exceed your budget.

Almost certainly the lens you don't want is the one that comes with the camera (kit lens) as typically its going to be in th 18-55mm range, which won't give you the telephoto range I think you're looking for.

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlinescompiani From Italy, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3466 times:

In case of buying a Nikon, actually i wouldn't want to spend more than 200 € (250 $ more or less) and i guess that this might not be a sufficient budget for a good lens, or not? From this point of view, I'm more attracted by the Canon one, in order to have the possibility to share equipment with my brother. He's got a lot of good lenses and accessories.
But you know, like everybody, i would want to get the best camera and equipment i can at this price, so i want to study all the possibilities before making a choice.
Thank you

My best greets
Stefano

P.S. To Colin, i'll buy an only body camera, surely i'm not going to use the 18-55


User currently offlineteopilot From Italy, joined Jul 2010, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3434 times:

Quoting scompiani (Reply 8):
In case of buying a Nikon, actually i wouldn't want to spend more than 200 € (250 $ more or less) and i guess that this might not be a sufficient budget for a good lens, or not? From this point of view, I'm more attracted by the Canon one, in order to have the possibility to share equipment with my brother. He's got a lot of good lenses and accessories.
But you know, like everybody, i would want to get the best camera and equipment i can at this price, so i want to study all the possibilities before making a choice.
Thank you

My best greets
Stefano

P.S. To Colin, i'll buy an only body camera, surely i'm not going to use the 18-55

Stefano, I can understand your point...
But, in my opinion, another important element to consider is the "feeling" with your camera: you should feel it comfortable in your hands.
For this reason I went for the Canon 450D last year, because Nikon's D3000 was not so good in my hands!
I think that this could be helpful when taking pictures in worse conditions, as well as with the normal use.

Then, by the time you have a restricted budget, I'd go for a Canon body, if I were you... also because, as others said before, you can share the lenses with your brother because entry kits prices are out of your budget, unfortunately.
Maybe a second hand body would be the best choice, but I'm not the one who can give advice about it... sorry!  

Then, remember that bodies change, but good lenses will never

Matteo

P.s.: nice to meet another Italian guy over here!  


User currently offlinescompiani From Italy, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

Finally i followed all your advises and i went for the Canon...i'm used to use a canon and i felt it more comfortable than the nikon one and however now i'm able to share equipment with my brother and save some (a lot of) money!
Thank you guys for helping me

Stefano


P.S.piacere mio Matteo...penso che non siamo in tantissimi a frequentare questo sito


User currently offlineteopilot From Italy, joined Jul 2010, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3252 times:

Quoting scompiani (Reply 10):
Finally i followed all your advises and i went for the Canon...i'm used to use a canon and i felt it more comfortable than the nikon one and however now i'm able to share equipment with my brother and save some (a lot of) money!
Thank you guys for helping me

Stefano


P.S.piacere mio Matteo...penso che non siamo in tantissimi a frequentare questo sito

Glad you've found your way... indeed, given your situation, the best choice, in my opinion.

So... start, or better, continue having fun with a camera of your own!  

Now,I look forwrd too see some of your shots over here!  

Just for curiosity (I hope our fellows won't get upset because of this attempt to hijack the topic)... but where are you from?

[Edited 2011-06-06 11:10:01]

User currently offlinescompiani From Italy, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3226 times:

Eeh, i 'm waiting that airliners.net friends accept me something   ...i still have a lot to learn
I'm from Rome but now I'm in Erasmus in Madrid...you?
next post on PM or i think the staff will close this topic  


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